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NYers to NYPD: 'I Do Not Consent to Being Searched'
The Village Voice ^ | July 21st, 200 | by Chisun Lee

Posted on 07/22/2005 11:06:07 AM PDT by BigFinn

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To: SandyInSeattle
Who defines unreasonable?

Try common sense. What's reasonable about searching the purse of an 80 year old woman while letting Ahmed and his backpack pass on through just because it's the old woman's turn to be searched? What's reasonable about *not* profiling? Please, enlighten us.

321 posted on 07/22/2005 12:33:19 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: SALChamps03
Night clubs are private entities.

Not in New York...............

322 posted on 07/22/2005 12:33:33 PM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) USSG Warning: Portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
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To: af_vet_rr

And the funny thing is that Sam was apparently a better patriot than brewer- his brewery went belly up.


323 posted on 07/22/2005 12:34:42 PM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: Stu Cohen

"Indeed, what exactly are they protecting anymore? Our borders are wide open, our every move is scrutinized, the "freedom and liberty" thing is pretty much extinct on the entire globe at this point."


Everyone knows that every good offense needs a good DEFENSE.
How can you fight a so called WOT when you've got the soft underbelly of america (aka our borders) EXPOSED?? That's not defensive by any means.

Ronald Reagan would have closed the borders post 9/11.


324 posted on 07/22/2005 12:35:03 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Support George Allen in 08!)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
Fighting for freedom in Iraq, while the SCOTUS rules in favor of abolition of private property!!

You're right, but damn, I wish you hadn't reminded me. Now my stomach hurts even more!

325 posted on 07/22/2005 12:35:19 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: gdani

You can be pulled over in Ohio just for not wearing a setbelt and be ticketed.


326 posted on 07/22/2005 12:35:44 PM PDT by superiorslots (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: Alberta's Child
Let a private operator take over the subway system, and let that operator figure out a way to deal with security matters.

The airlines are private entities. How's that working for them?

327 posted on 07/22/2005 12:35:49 PM PDT by gdani (While terrorists are busy planning the *next* attacks we work to prevent their *previous* attacks)
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To: Oberon

But I have a choice. I can simply not take the subway. If I choose to ride, I will cooperate with the police.


328 posted on 07/22/2005 12:35:53 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: BurbankKarl
It's too bad our security on our borders is not as good as it is at train and subway stations.

What happens *if* and when shopping centers, malls, churches, and theater's are bombed?

Seems to me, security should start right at our borders and with very strict, reformed immigration policies.

I may be wrong, but it seems this should be our #1 priority.

329 posted on 07/22/2005 12:36:10 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Sandy

I can't enlighten you, because unreasonable is not up to me.

I can tell you that the terrorists are smart. If they know we're targeting a certain group, they'll use someone else, which is why profiling only goes so far. Does anybody honestly believe they won't use American citizens?


330 posted on 07/22/2005 12:36:56 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: ArrogantBustard

About 4.5 million people a day ride the subway. About 500 stations and roughly 500 miles of track.


331 posted on 07/22/2005 12:36:59 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: TheForceOfOne
I can just imagine the belly moaning that would go on today if the same sacrifices ask of civilians during WWII were ask today.

Once muslim internment and deportation have commenced, I'll gladly accept my ration cards and plant my victory garden.

First things first

332 posted on 07/22/2005 12:37:00 PM PDT by Freebird Forever (abolish islam)
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To: noexcuses

" If we were not in this terrorism battle I would not like it one bit but as it is better safe than sorry."

How long do you think we'll be at war with islamofascism? They've been fighting the hindus for hundreds of years....


333 posted on 07/22/2005 12:37:25 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Support George Allen in 08!)
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To: Sandy
What's reasonable about *not* profiling? Please, enlighten us

Three words -- John Walker Lindh.

Or, as I've said before, any terrorist group with half a brain is busy recruiting caucasians & women to carry out their plans.

334 posted on 07/22/2005 12:37:35 PM PDT by gdani (While terrorists are busy planning the *next* attacks we work to prevent their *previous* attacks)
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To: RedRover

Quote: But I have a choice. I can simply not take the subway. If I choose to ride, I will cooperate with the police

Bogus argument. Many-probably the majority of people have no choice but to ride the subway.


335 posted on 07/22/2005 12:38:37 PM PDT by superiorslots (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: Wolfie

March lockstep or be flamed, simple enough ;)


336 posted on 07/22/2005 12:38:49 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (Support George Allen in 08!)
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To: BigFinn
police promised they would not engage in racial profiling

[speechless]
337 posted on 07/22/2005 12:39:03 PM PDT by pau1f0rd (Still more majestic shalt thou rise, More dreadful from each foreign stroke.)
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To: gdani

Calling people "sheeple" is arrogant and offensive. Would you prefer that New York's subway riders refuse to cooperate with the police?
The searches in New York City are by police in New York City--not the FBI. I don't see this as a big government issue.


338 posted on 07/22/2005 12:39:45 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: gdani
How's that working for them?

It would probably be working just fine if they were TRULY private entities. Part of the problem, though, is that while airlines are private entities, most airports are not. The interface between these two different entities is what introduces a very hazy area into the mix.

339 posted on 07/22/2005 12:39:53 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Then the cops do not consent to let them on the subway.

My first thought exactly.

340 posted on 07/22/2005 12:40:15 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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