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Are You Ready for a Hybrid?
Business Week Online ^ | 07.20.05 | Larry Armstrong

Posted on 07/21/2005 8:11:54 AM PDT by q_an_a

First, pick a car that matches the kind of driving you do -- city or highway. Here are the scouting reports on six eco-friendly vehicles.

I've been shopping for something to replace my aging Toyota (NYSE: TM - News), and I've come to this conclusion: My next car will be a hybrid. I've driven them all, starting in 1999 with Honda's quirky Insight and Toyota's original Prius, each more of a laboratory curiosity than a practical vehicle. In the past three months, with an eye on ever-loftier gasoline prices, I've driven all the mainstream models again, most for a week at a time and back to back with their conventionally powered counterparts. The landscape has really changed.

Today's hybrids are no longer sops to environmentalism. They represent the biggest shift in automotive technology since the development of the gasoline engine. True, the first-generation hybrids were underpowered -- and ugly. But the new wave, led by pioneers Toyota and Honda (NYSE: HMC - News), is vastly improved. By marrying an electric motor with a conventional power train, hybrids save money at the pump, reduce consumption of foreign oil, cut tailpipe emissions, and maybe even give the car's performance an extra kick.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: cars; hybrid; technolgy
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The price is down, the power is up and the Saudi's will be getting fewer US $$ next year. Put 300,000 a year on the road and 1% of our imports are ended. OH - Tell Chavez he can suck eggs with his oil too.
1 posted on 07/21/2005 8:11:54 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: q_an_a

When you find a hybrid that fits seven and can pull my trailer full of snowmobiles or my boat, let me know.


2 posted on 07/21/2005 8:13:00 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This ain't your granddaddy's America)
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To: q_an_a

Hybrids have a long way to go before I'll consider one.


3 posted on 07/21/2005 8:14:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

I think hybrids will work find for SOME people. Certainly increasing the choices is a good way to sell these things. The Ford mini-SUV is a nice choice for people who want the convenience of SUVs but don't have to or want to haul boats, snowmobiles, etc.


4 posted on 07/21/2005 8:15:57 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: cripplecreek
It's a matter of what sort of vehicle you require. If you need a compact car, today's hybrids might be worth considering. If you need a large car, or a truck ... gas or diesel is the only way to go, for the moment.
5 posted on 07/21/2005 8:18:14 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: q_an_a
Why bother.

The 8th-generation Honda Civic due around October 2005 will sport 140, 160 and 200 bhp engines that have 5-6 percent BETTER fuel efficiency than the current Civic models, thanks to new engines with improved variable-valve timing designs.

Besides, next spring the USA will get the Honda Fit, which will offer even higher fuel efficiency than the next-generation Civic in a vehicle that makes the Scion xA look big in comparison yet offers an amazing amount of interior space.

6 posted on 07/21/2005 8:18:28 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: q_an_a

I just bought a Toyota.. no, not a hybrid. They are still too expensive here in So. Cal. I'll not pay 30k for a car that would cost 20k or less if it wasn't a hybrid.


7 posted on 07/21/2005 8:18:44 AM PDT by Trampled by Lambs (This Tagline is on hiatus as I think of a new one.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
When you find a hybrid that fits seven and can pull my trailer full of snowmobiles or my boat, let me know.

I guess you have no problem funding terrorists as long as you preserve your lifestyle.

I'll defend your right to do it, though.

8 posted on 07/21/2005 8:19:38 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: rhombus

I was looking at the Ford Escape hybrid and found out that you cannot run the AC while stopped. You must run the engine while stopped or in stop and go traffic to run the AC. This kind of kills the benefits of higher gas mileage right there at least for the summer. I wonder if you have to run the gas engine for the heat in the winter?


9 posted on 07/21/2005 8:19:38 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: q_an_a

We can do that now if the leftist would stop blocking every energy plan put forward by the GOP, such as nuclear power plants, more drilling in our own country and offshore waters such as the Gulf of Mexico, Florida and California. We have plenty of energy here but the left is too much in love with the Saudi Muslims.


10 posted on 07/21/2005 8:19:50 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid! "ALLEN IN 08")
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Sure thing, just as soon as you find me a non-hybrid that'll go 40 miles per gallon.


11 posted on 07/21/2005 8:19:54 AM PDT by Omedalus
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Try the Toyota Highlander SUV. I would imagine it can tow, and it seats 7.


12 posted on 07/21/2005 8:23:01 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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I hate the idea.

how about figuring a cost effective way to extract Hydrogen from all that water that covers this orb, then run INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINES with it. VROOOOOMMMMM!

Yes Virginia....it has a HEMI.
13 posted on 07/21/2005 8:23:19 AM PDT by Vaquero ("There is no replacement for displacement")
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To: Kennard

Do walk everywhere, dipstick?


14 posted on 07/21/2005 8:25:07 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This ain't your granddaddy's America)
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To: Omedalus

I think you had better up that mileage figure. Several non hybrids do better than 40 miles per. Do a google or simply ask the FReepers what they get in mileage.


15 posted on 07/21/2005 8:25:24 AM PDT by calex59 (If you have to take me apart to get me there, then I don't want to go!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
When you find a hybrid that fits seven and can pull my trailer full of snowmobiles or my boat, let me know.

Toyota Highlander Hybrid, seats 7, tows 3500 pounds.

My only real questions about a hybrid is how long do the batteries last? If they need to be replaced after a few years for a couple thousand dollars, then it is not worth it. Even using their figures of
Hybrid 2WD price $33,595 30 mpg
Annual gas savings** 214 gal.
2WD V-6 price $26,555 21 mpg

You save $400-$500/year on gas. That means you need to keep it 14-17 years to break even, even if you don't have to replace the batteries.

16 posted on 07/21/2005 8:25:27 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Bork should have had Kennedy's USSC seat and Kelo v. New London would have gone the other way.)
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To: All

No...


17 posted on 07/21/2005 8:25:49 AM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: luckystarmom
Toyota Highlander SUV

It's a hybrid? Is it better than an expedition.

18 posted on 07/21/2005 8:25:52 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This ain't your granddaddy's America)
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To: frogjerk

You can run the A/C anytime in the Prius.


19 posted on 07/21/2005 8:26:13 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Omedalus

VW Jetta/Golf or Beetle TDI. I get 50'ish or so in my Jetta Turbo Diesel. The 600-650 miles between fillups is such a drag... ;)


20 posted on 07/21/2005 8:26:16 AM PDT by visagoth (If you think education is expensive - try ignorance)
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