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1 posted on 07/21/2005 6:51:12 AM PDT by thinking4me
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Worried about the housing bubble, stay updated, go to http://www.moneyfiles.org/temp.html , an educational website dedicated to the economics of the Founding Fathers. Ps: seeking volunteers.


2 posted on 07/21/2005 6:52:23 AM PDT by thinking4me (sound money first)
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Cities like Detroit, Providence, and Denver are at risk, but the other markets are all popular with foreign investors. In the event of economic trouble and a drop in the dollar, a steady flow of foreign investment capital should not only keep those markets up, but probably push values to even more insane heights. I've said all along that when the crisis comes, it will be the markets that don't seem to be overvalued right now which will be hit hardest.


3 posted on 07/21/2005 6:55:37 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Some people are like gravy, spilled on God's Sunday shirt..." -- Spock's Beard)
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To: thinking4me

Yup, I'm sure this is my fault too, since we bought a house in S. Florida last year! Sharks....hurricanes...housing bubbles......
susie


4 posted on 07/21/2005 6:57:29 AM PDT by brytlea (All you need as ID in FL to vote is your Costco card...)
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To: thinking4me

Terrible analysis by PMI.

Most of these are just large markets where the price of housing is going up at higher rates than other areas.

You cold just come up with the list of highest percentage sales increases and do just as well.

There is no bubble coming for another 2-3 years but it will make great story writing and the sky is falling catastrophe...

zzzzzzzzzzzzz


5 posted on 07/21/2005 6:57:50 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: thinking4me
10. Minneapolis-St. Paul.

Housing prices in the Twin Cities have climbed an annualized 9% over the past three years. Still, PMI places the odds of a downturn at one in four. With Northwest Airlines, a major area employer, facing problems, job growth and payrolls are stagnating


This article begs to differ.

7 posted on 07/21/2005 7:05:59 AM PDT by akorahil (consider this space filled with yet another witty and irreverent tag line instead of this...)
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To: thinking4me
No bubble here in Dallas. I've had one increase in appraised value in five years, and I live 1/2 mile from the Cowboys complex.

It's great from a property tax standpoint, but lousy for those who may need a home equity loan.

10 posted on 07/21/2005 7:15:07 AM PDT by Night Hides Not
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To: thinking4me

Number 1. should be New London, Connecticut!


11 posted on 07/21/2005 7:15:25 AM PDT by CSM ( If the government has taken your money, it has fulfilled its Social Security promises. (dufekin))
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To: thinking4me
What, a Florida real estate boom?
FLORIDA IN THE 1920'S: THE GREAT FLORIDA LAND BOOM
My favorite story of the 1920s scams was of the drivers of touring cars who were to take prospects around the developments, many of which were called "... Hills," like "Lauderdale Hills," & etc. The drivers were trained to speed up and slow down occasionally, as if they were climbing and descending actual hills.

To quote Carl Hiassen, it ain't "nothing a good hurricane can't fix..."

15 posted on 07/21/2005 7:42:26 AM PDT by nicollo (All economics are politics.)
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Like Boston, New York City suffered through a housing slump in the '90s. But while job losses were the big problem then

Is this right? Job losses in the 90s? How can that be? I never read any stories about this, did you?

19 posted on 07/21/2005 8:03:41 AM PDT by rabidralph (We are surrounded by pants-wetting FReepers)
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To: thinking4me

If there's one stock that has been the "Microsoft" of the housing market it is NVR. When NVR crashes, its time to beat a hastey retreat. I started following NVR about 5 years ago. They were trading in the mid 30's. Earlier in the week the stock closed at 879, that's right 879. Its PE is only around 13. They make 68 bucks a share. They have outperformed every other home buyer out there. They also originate mortgages which help move their houses.

This is the bellweather home builder stock and what its telling us is, forget about the interest rate increases, happy days are here again.


20 posted on 07/21/2005 8:05:02 AM PDT by appeal2
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I've lived in Ft Lauderdale for 49 years, have been a homeowner for 33 years, and am in the real estate finance business (albeit commercial, not residential). I have to disagree with the bubble theory here. Reasons: Lack of developable real estate; relatively low real estate taxes; fairly well balanced economic base; dramatic increase in values are more of a reflection of historically low values, compared to what they should have been; demand still out-strips supply for single family units; lack of speculation in single family units (as compared to condominiums). I believe that the rate of increase in values will slow, but that there will not be a wholesale drop in values, especially in the areas east of I-95 in Ft Lauderdale.

One caveat....I would not buy a luxury condominium in Ft Lauderdale right now. Speculation in that market has been very active, and construction lenders are beginning to crack down on contract flipping, strawman buyers, etc. Developers are going to have to come in with legitimate, non-assignable contracts from end users to get their construction financing done.

23 posted on 07/21/2005 8:44:27 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Liberals preach comity and practice calumny.)
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To: thinking4me

Q. How is my 10 year old son ever going to afford his first house/town house/condo (in approx. 10 yrs)?

A. He's not ever going to.

I fear our greed is going to push the next generation into socialism.

Here's hoping the bubble pops soon, and often.


24 posted on 07/21/2005 8:50:57 AM PDT by austinite
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It's not the amazing performance of the Washington Nationals (formerly the Montreal Expos) that is driving up home prices in and around the nation's capital. It's increases in federal spending, which support a strong job market. The median home price in Washington, D.C., and the nearby Maryland and Virginia suburbs jumped 23% over the past year, to $369,000. Even a modest decline in government outlays could tip the housing market on its side.

In that case, the proximate causes of property-value loss will be esthetic blight (from the feces and urine dropped onto the houses by the pigs flying overhead), the need to redo the ductwork (to tailor the air conditioning and heating to fit a sun that rises in the west and sets in the east), and a glut of new real estate coming onto the market (after local Catholic churches close up shop in response to His Holiness' conversion to Paganism).

It may, however, be somewhat offset by housing demand from imps and demons in search of new abodes (after fleeing from the ice and snow blanketing their old digs).

25 posted on 07/21/2005 9:04:25 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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Like Boston, New York City suffered through a housing slump in the '90s.

What, prices rose by only 5-10% a year instead of 25%?

But while job losses were the big problem then, now it's out-migration. "People from New York, especially baby-boomers, are moving out," says Yun.

Utter crap. People from around the world are still flocking to NY, and they will easily replace the old-timers who are leaving. As always.

If the trend accelerates, it could cause a problem, particularly for the high end of the real estate market.

ONLY for the high-end of the market. Affordable starter or middle-class homes in Westchester, NJ, LI, etc. are practically nonexistent, and there are HUGE amounts of city-dwelling yuppies, recent transplants, and upwardly-mobile ethnic families from Queens, Brooklyn and The Bronx who want their picket fence and lawn, and are all searching for a way to get in.

There is no way the low-end or middle-class market crashes in the NYC area.

Now, the people who ask $1.5 million for their little 3-bedroom split-level in middle-class suburbs... there's your rude awakening coming.

29 posted on 07/21/2005 10:12:22 AM PDT by Jhensy
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To: thinking4me

Hmm, I purchased a Condo in Ft Lauderdale a few years back, I wonder if they differentiate between single-family units or condos.


31 posted on 07/21/2005 10:23:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Judging by the ads in the on-plane magazines, the Miami condo market is nuts, they must have five or six new mega-condos being built right now. It's been a few years since I've been back to SoFla, but I suspect I wouldn't even recognize the Miami skyline now.


34 posted on 07/21/2005 10:27:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Bump to me... it's my generation that's gonna take it up the wazoo... might as well learn about it.


40 posted on 07/21/2005 1:57:37 PM PDT by RedBeaconNY (My cat has a cold.)
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