Posted on 07/20/2005 6:41:14 PM PDT by CHARLITE
I did not think that it was a big deal at the time. Castro was more or less a hero to the left here and to many in the MSM. There would be no war -- especially nukes -- over Cuba.
"When New fork Times columnist James Reston asked Kennedy following the [1961] Vienna summit, 'How was it?', Kennedy responded 'Worst thing in my life. He savaged me,' and he added, 'I think I know why he treated me like this. He thinks because of the Bay of Pigs... I had no guts.'"
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"He" being Khrushchev was right. Kennedy got us into Viet Nam (it was either that or Berlin) to try to prove that he had "guts." Krushchev was just pushing the empty suit he'd humiliated in Vienna.
The MSM helped make it look and sound dramatic, though.
Kennedy was a "great" president solely because he was telegenic and it was the beginning of TV.
I've looked for your "summer" in June, July and August so far...which weekend do you hold it?
No, I am saying that the secret deal that JFK made with Khruschev to remove missiles from Turkey, once it was revealed, was universally described as obsolete by the JFK administration and the MSM/History toadies, as if we were giving up nothing to those Russkie dupes.
No one ever asks: "Couldn't the obsolete missiles have been upgraded?" or "Isn't Turkey located in advantageously for U.S. missile deployment?" No, the U.S. Turkey missile concession is dismissed as if nothing by all MSM sources, and in identical language. All to further lionize the only modern Democrat President that they can possibly tout.
Here's another little jewel from that era that continues to be a curse to our country and which we have LBJ to thank for:
Krusty humiliated jack even further when he propped up the Berlin Wall. Jack just stood there and did nothing.
The Massachusetts electorate must have some sort of disease. Maybe it's the water? Gargan, whom you reference in your post, also could have saved that girl's life. Three Massachusetts lawyers sat around for 9 hours before reporting the accident. Unforgiveable.
thanks for clarifying; they had to be as good as scuds.
The real story about JFK was he was drugged out imbecile who allowed the Soviet Union to station themselves 90 miles from our coastline.
Sorry you missed it. Flies wasn't too bad. Fall starts this week, and due to the warmer-than-usual-weather, may last as long as mid-August. Could use a hand with potatoes.
there may be real danger for the Democrats pitting Teddy against an articulate pro-lifer on live t.v.
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Wow! Thanks for the media's spin on the Turkey missle concessions.
The clintons can only envy poppa Joe for his ability to buy off the press for his son jack.
oh, it's the weekend you chase off the mosquitoes and let the flies take over. (Actually, I enjoyed my stay there about a month ago despite highs in the 40's that week)
Not exactly nothing.
For some reason -- no one knows why (the drugs?) -- President Kennedy went to the Western part of Berlin and told the citizens there that he was a doughnut.
Camelot's toady press and court scribes rose to the occasion, however.
JFK's "dreary account of mismanagement, timidity and indecision," as Eisenhower described his handling of the Bay of Pigs invasion a year earlier, emboldened the Soviets to install nuclear missiles in Cuba in the first place.
After the "resolution," some of the very Cuban freedom fighters who had smuggled out intelligence on the Soviet missiles found themselves stranded in a Cuba swarming with Soviet soldiers. Dozens of these young heroes huddled in Mangrove swamps along Cuba's coast, dodging Castro patrols and waiting for their scheduled "exfiltration" by motorboats back to the U.S.
Their wait was vain. Their mission accomplished, their evidence to the New Frontiersmen about weapons of mass destruction 90 miles away and hosted by the most pathologically anti-American regime in history delivered, these heroes promptly fell through the cracks of the Kennedy-Khrushchev deal. They were expendable.
"Let's be careful not to let any of these Cuban refugees upset the deal" were JFK's words to his attorney general brother on the night of October 28, 1962. So the scheduled boat runs to the Cuban coast by the infiltrators' comrades to carry them back were canceled. Suddenly these runs were impediments to Camelot's delicate diplomacy.
who paid for Patricia Bowman's outing? (undoubtedly confirmed by Rove, by the way.)
Use plenty of sunscreen and try to move about slowly. These heat waves can take you unawares when you ain't used to it.
By the way, if you head about 100 mile west of the Bush house, you'll find tropical weather, which is why we moved the Somalis over to there. Our state PR Department has been selling the cool myth for 135 years, so do your best to keep it going. Ocean side is cool. Woods is hot
Whoever payed for it must've had some of poppa joe's money in the form of a trust fund.
Oh, I thought it would show JFK scribbling in the margins of the map..."sell out the Cuban freedom fighters and deny them air cover" and "cut deal with Soviets and pretend to be tough".
To give him his due, he looks better than he has in years, so much so that when he falls off the wagon, you can now tell right away! I also receive the distinct impression he loathes Kerry. I reckon he imagines that had it not been for Chappaquiddick, it would be he running for President!
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