Freed inmate charged in rape, kidnap of teen

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[kx9088]

Only because his eyes have been dug out with a rusty spork.

[PAR35]

If I understand arguments here correctly, people are calling on the death penalty for this man.

Yes, this is just his third (known) rape. He deserves a second chance at life. He has only spent 8 of his last 8 years locked up. I'm sure a little bit more time in prison will complete his re-hab. /sacasm.

This rabid dog needs to be put down. No point warehousing him at taxpayer expense until some liberal judge can cut him loose again.

As for your 'death penalty for rape encourages murder' statements, those are based upon liberal propaganda rather than historical data. (Look at the rape and murder stats from the era when forcable rape merited the death penalty, and compare those numbers to the more recent era when federal judges have protected rapists.)

[oldenuff2no]

What can anyone say to this kind of crap????
They need to put him in with the BIG Bubbas' where they can make him their girls friend and then keep passing him around.
After thirty years of being their "HO", he might just figure our that rape isn't a good thing.

[rebelyeller]

Then invite these animals to your house so they will leave the rest of our daughters alone. You are unbelievable.

[twigs]

You are unbelievable.

Yes, I am. Thank you for noticing.

[rebelyeller]

Typical self-absorbed liberal

[Palladin]

Terrible!

There are some people who are natural born reprobates--they can never be rehabilitated.

Toledo used to be such a nice city, about 50 years ago.

[contemplator]

"...Look at the rape and murder stats from the era when forcable rape merited the death penalty, and compare those numbers to the more recent era when federal judges have protected rapists...."

Interesting stats, do you have a source for them?

[twigs]

No, I'm not a liberal. At all. But I do believe that reasonable people can discuss issues even when they don't agree. Except so many dems (not all) who seem to be incapable of reason and respect for their fellow man. I don't agree with all issues here on FR, but I have always valued the opportunity to read and discuss differences intelligently without resorting to name-calling. I try to be careful never to impune motives and worldviews to other posters who I do not know well enough to assert what I could not possibly know.

[twigs]

And no, I do not want these criminals out on the street. In an earlier posting, I said that they should be put behind bars with no chance of parole.

[DM1]

"behind bars with no chance of parole."
sorry this does not work. you let dangerous criminals live and there is always a chance they can get out whether parole escape what have you

[rebelyeller]

Then pleas explain to me what you feel is "appropriate sentencing". Do you honestly believe this animal can be changed into anything other than an animal, and do you honestly think that any kind of punishment other than death would deter him form victimizing another girl.

[rebelyeller]

It cost on average $30K a year to keep this animal in a cage and he is 20 years old so do the math, is this how you want your tax dollars spent?

[twigs]

First of all, he's not an animal. Yes, he acts like one, but he's a human being. That's not my assessment but God's in His word. Can he be rehabilitated? Probably not. Statistics aren't very encouraging. But I'm not saying that he should be rehabilitated. This man should NEVER be free to be on the streets again. If he remains behind bars, then he will not victimize another innocent person. I do believe in the death penalty, but I think we should use it carefully. It should be used in cases of treason and first-degree murder. I might add other instances in there as well, but they don't come to me now.

[twigs]

No, I don't like my tax dollars being spent this way. But I just refuse to start making this kind of decision by how much money it costs. Yes, money matters, but once we start to decide public policy about the lives of people through cost analysis, we begin to lose our grip on our humanity. I'm no closet liberal, but I'm a Christian and I try very carefully to think about my world in a way that reflects God and how He created the world and me... It's not always easy, I assure you. These people raise my anger as much as they raise yours. But I believe our society is judged by how we determine these very difficult cases. It's not easy.

[rebelyeller]

On that we can agree I also consider myself a Christian and I firmly believe in. "render unto Cesar what is Cesar's and unto God what is Gods" and also "IF you right had offends thee it is better to cut it off than the whole body parish" I am sorry if I paraphrased a little. I also believe the increase in rape and child molestation is do to this country's porn industry. At some point we are going to have to get tough on these and I still say animals. Sometimes a surgeon has to cut before he can cure

[twigs]

We DO agree on some of the issues here! And I agree it's an extremely difficult issue.

[rebelyeller]

Bottom line is I love my country and I love it's children and I cant stand seeing what is being done to both.

[PAR35]

Interesting stats, do you have a source for them?

Of course.

Year -- Population -- Murder -- Rape

1960 -- 179,323,175 -- 9,110 -- 17,190

1975 -- 213,124,000 -- 20,510 -- 56,090

2000 -- 281,421,906 -- 15,517 -- 90,186

1960 - death penalty for both
1975 - death penalty for neither
2000 death penalty for murder but not rape

(Note - some liberal states don't have the death penalty for any crime; Louisiana still has a death penalty for some child rapes (and yes, it has NOT been ruled unconstitutional) which will skew the nationwide stats slightly. Top link is for national stats; you can find state stats at the second site listed. )

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/

[contemplator]

Very interesting stats indeed. Thanks.