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To: fortheDeclaration

You're history is dubious. Feminism dates to the nineteenth century. For the most part, early feminists (including Susan B. Anthony) were anti-abortion, anti-liquor, Protestant, and quite puritanical on moral issues.


723 posted on 07/20/2005 4:53:50 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
You're history is dubious. Feminism dates to the nineteenth century. For the most part, early feminists (including Susan B. Anthony) were anti-abortion, anti-liquor, Protestant, and quite puritanical on moral issues.

The so-called "women’s movement" had its roots in the late 18th century and picked up speed in the 1840s, particularly in New England.

By the 1910s, it had become organized and more or less unified around a few key issues, bringing together women of diverse backgrounds and beliefs. These groups fought mainly for prohibition and the 19th-amendment (women’s suffrage), although fringe elements (like those headed by Margaret Sanger) advocated "free love," forced sterilization of the poor and "unfit" and the elimination of marriage and the traditional family.

Later these more extremist groups would come to dominate feminism in the 1960s during the sexual revolution. Today’s "Third-Wave" feminists (equity feminists rather than gender feminists) have worked hard to distance themselves from the radical bra-burners of that time and have disavowed much of their foremothers’ philosophy. But there is still a shared foundation between the radical feminists and their "kinder, gentler" sisters of the 21st century.

Today we have essentially three different strands of feministic thought.

First there are the "equity feminists" who do believe there are inherent differences between the sexes but seek to promote specific reforms to address what they perceive as unequal treatment in society ("equal pay for equal work," etc.). Equity feminists relate most closely to the "first-wave" feminists of the 1840s-1920s who fought for woman’s suffrage, prohibition, and the end of the "living wage" law for men (in order to get more women into the workforce for more pay). Feminists in this camp prefer to distance themselves from the sexual revolutionaries of the 1960s and tend to be more conservative in their application of feminism to society.

Next there are the "gender feminists" who wish to remove any lines of distinction between men and women in all areas of life. As Thomas Gramstad writes, "There are no virtues or psychological characteristics belonging exclusively to males, or to females." [2] Many of the adherents of gender feminism believe that any psychological or social differences between men and women are rooted in the oppression of a patriarchal structure that seeks to make women lesser persons than men. They seek to end patriarchy and maintain complete egalitarianism between the sexes. One such feminist goes so far as to say, "True equality of the sexes will come when God is universally perceived as androgynous. Then, and only then, will there be true equality of the sexes." [3] She admits this view is "dangerously blasphemous" and places her beyond the pale of many mainstream feminists, but she proposes a new definition of "feminist" all the same, to wit: "A person who supports the theory that God the Mother is equal to God the Father." [4] While most gender feminists do not go to this theological extreme, you do find many within this camp who promote the idea of the "goddess within," advocate gender-neutral translations of the Bible, etc. Gender feminists tend to align themselves with the so-called "second-wave" feminists of the 1960s who are perceived as more "radical" and activist in their pursuits.

Finally, you have the "third-wave" feminists of today (mainly Generation Xers and younger). They have toned down the more radical tenets of the 1960s women’s movement, but they are generally not as conservative as the equity feminists and tend to advocate liberal causes such as abortion on demand. One third-wave feminist is Amy Richards of feminist.com, who writes, There are many definitions of what a feminist is--the simplest and probably the best is what is listed in most dictionaries--"a person who believes in the full equality of women and men." This means anyone--male or female--who supports this idea can be a feminist. As for [the] goal of feminism, [it] is equality--and that means both that women do what men have done (be fire fighters and corporate executives) and that men do what women have done (be stay-at-home fathers and secretaries). [5]

There are, of course, feminists of all stripes among these philosophical camps. To further complicate matters, feminists within each camp often differ drastically over the application and practice of their philosophy. The "fringe" elements on both sides have alienated many women, who seek to distance themselves from the more radical elements of feminism. Steve Roby writes about the frustrating difficulty of trying to find a united feminist "voice":

Maybe it's time for some organization to claim feminism as its own intellectual property. Patent it, trademark it, license it, but most importantly, clearly define what feminism actually is today. Then we could just look for a feminist seal of approval on any new book about feminism. Unfortunately, there's no licensing body, no Institute of Professional Feminists. There's no one true definition of feminism. Does it focus on individual or collective rights? Does it seek a common ground or does it foster division? Does it oppose pornography or does it oppose censorship? Depends who you ask. Put Andrea Dworkin, Nadine Strossen, Susan Faludi, and Christina Hoff Sommers in one room, and wait for a feminist consensus to develop. You may have to wait until two or three of them have died of old age before reaching that consensus. [6] http://www.ladiesagainstfeminism.com/artman/publish/article_6.shtml

800 posted on 07/21/2005 12:47:31 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Gal.4:16)
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