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CA: (FResno) Police defend their arrest of 11-year-old girl (Strike 1?)
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 7/19/05 | Juliana Barbassa - AP

Posted on 07/19/2005 7:48:55 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

FRESNO, Calif. (AP) - Fresno police on Tuesday defended their arrest of an 11-year-old girl on a felony assault charge for throwing a rock at a neighborhood boy who had pelted her with a water balloon. The department released more details, color photos and a testimonial from Fresno's mayor.

"This incident has been distorted and misrepresented," Mayor Alan Autry said in a statement. "In Fresno we love our children too much to treat this like it was just a childhood dispute, when in fact the consequences could have been tragic."

Police said an Associated Press story last week should have mentioned that the rock was "jagged-edged" and weighed 2 pounds, and that that the gash to the boy's head was "deep." Police also said the girl physically resisted while being handcuffed and put in a patrol car, scratching an officer's arm. The scratches were documented in two police photos.

"It is unfortunate that The Associated Press released one-sided information containing numerous inaccuracies," Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer said in the statement.

"The simple fact is that we have an 11-year-old girl who struck a boy in the head with a jagged-edged, two-pound river rock, that required him to have stitches," he added in an interview. "That is a felony, assault with a deadly weapon, and we are very fortunate that that act did not cause a more serious injury, even death."

The story was reported over the course of two days last week while the AP sought details from police. Ultimately, a spokesman said simply that officers had responded appropriately, and denied that racism had anything to do with it, despite the suspicions of the girl's lawyer.

"I understand the difficulty of this situation for police, but the story was accurately reported, and we made substantial efforts to get fair comment from everyone involved," said John Raess, AP's bureau chief for Northern California.

The AP story was based on the police report and interviews with Maribel Cuevas, her family and their attorney, Richard Beshwate Jr., who suggested that the arresting officers' inability to communicate with either family in their native languages - Spanish and Hmong - may have been a factor in what he called an overreaction by police.

The police report said the boy acknowledged throwing the water balloon, and was released from a hospital after getting stitches in his forehead. But the boy's family couldn't be reached for comment. The family has moved away, and neither neighbors nor Hmong community leaders were aware of their whereabouts. Dyer said Tuesday that police also don't know where the Vang family is.

The case began in April as children's play between Maribel and Elijah Vang, who lived around the block from the Cuevas family. Maribel was in the fourth grade at the time, and Elijah was in third grade at the same elementary school.

Maribel said she was playing on the sidewalk with her 6-year-old brother when Elijah rode by on his bike with a half-dozen neighborhood boys, who splattered them with water balloons. Police said Tuesday that there is no indication that any other boys were involved, but the police report also notes that no other boys were around to be interviewed when officers arrived.

Maribel threw a rock that hit Elijah on the head, opening a gash. While she ran to find Elijah's parents, a neighbor called 911. Police responded, arresting the girl. She was held in juvenile hall for five days, then released under house arrest for nearly a month. She's scheduled to appear on a charge of felony assault with a deadly weapon on Aug. 3.

Police said Tuesday that the AP story minimized the severity of the assault by failing to mention the size of the rock (5.5 inches by 3.75 inches) or the gash (the police report said it was four inches long; it turned out to be 1.2 inches long, according to hospital records cited by Beshwate) or the fact that Maribel scratched the officer's arm.

Several other key facts remain in dispute. For example, police say Maribel weighs 130 pounds. Her family says she's 90 pounds. Police say they believe Elijah is 6 years old; hospital records show he's 8 and a half, Beshwate said.

Dyer also took issue with the phrasing in last week's AP story that "police apparently came prepared for gang warfare" in response to the 911 call. Witnesses said three squad cars and a helicopter were at the scene, but Dyer said that initially, only two officers were dispatched, and they called for backup only after the girl resisted arrest. Ultimately, the department said Tuesday, it sent six people, including three officers. The helicopter witnesses saw hovering above wasn't dispatched based on the 911 call, but it's not unusual for law enforcement helicopters to fly over disturbances, police said.

Police reiterated Tuesday that the officer's reaction had nothing to do with the race of those involved. "Neither the race of the suspect nor victim in any way influenced the decisions made by the officers," Dyer said in the statement.

"Who knows what their motives were, but it doesn't matter," Beshwate said. "Their actions were indefensible, and the general public doesn't agree with that."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: 11yearold; arrest; california; defend; dontspeakenglish; fresno; girl; police
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What a mess.

I betcha Greta will be on this like white on rice if it goes to trial.

1 posted on 07/19/2005 7:48:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

A radio talk show host said the police chief said the girl threw a boulder...

I guess quite a few folks may have exaggerated/misinterpreted what went down and now the DA, and likely a court, will have to decide where this ends up at.

Developing ;-)


2 posted on 07/19/2005 7:51:39 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: NormsRevenge
Maribel threw a rock that hit Elijah on the head, opening a gash. While she ran to find Elijah's parents, a neighbor called 911. Police responded, arresting the girl. She was held in juvenile hall for five days, then released under house arrest for nearly a month. She's scheduled to appear on a charge of felony assault with a deadly weapon on Aug. 3.

Sure glad these fools weren't alive and in power when I was a boy.  I'd be serving a life sentence somewhere.  Or, worse.

3 posted on 07/19/2005 7:53:00 PM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Lesson learned? Don't show up to a rock fight with a water balloon.


4 posted on 07/19/2005 7:53:50 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: NormsRevenge
When they outlaw jagged two-pound rocks, only outlaws will have jagged two-pound rocks.
5 posted on 07/19/2005 7:55:57 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: F15Eagle

11 and 130 pounds ,, she has shot putter written all over her.


7 posted on 07/19/2005 8:00:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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Police said Tuesday that the AP story minimized the severity of the assault by failing to mention the size of the rock (5.5 inches by 3.75 inches) or the gash (the police report said it was four inches long; it turned out to be 1.2 inches long, according to hospital records cited by Beshwate) or the fact that Maribel scratched the officer's arm.


8 posted on 07/19/2005 8:01:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: NormsRevenge

People of this race are violent and uncontrolled, even as children. Oh, wait... we don't even KNOW their race.

Never mind.


9 posted on 07/19/2005 8:03:30 PM PDT by ReadyNow
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...but Dyer said that initially, only two officers were dispatched, and they called for backup only after the girl resisted arrest.
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If you have to call backup because an 11 year old girl is "resisting" arrest, you should just do all involved a favor and resign from police work. I mean seriously, will you wet your pants if you have to arrest an adult?

As for even arresting any one here. If you want to pretend this is an adult situation, you have one person assaulting another who then responds. Maybe you would arrest BOTH adults in such a situation.

Of course in the real world these are two kids. You take them both home to their parent and get them a stern lecture.

PS: To the official "explainer", I doubt it really matters whether or not this particular rock came from a river or not.


10 posted on 07/19/2005 8:03:57 PM PDT by JLS
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To: NormsRevenge

She'd be great as a baseball pitcher. I still have nightmares about my junior high school years, there was a gal who threw a fierce fastball. And she could hit the ball out of the park. She scared the crap out of a lot of guys back then.


12 posted on 07/19/2005 8:05:29 PM PDT by roadcat
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I had a cousin , 2 years ahead of me, she could whip that ball, we never threw rocks at each other, but I have a feeling she could have more than held her own.


14 posted on 07/19/2005 8:10:59 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: randog

A simple case of self-defense.


15 posted on 07/19/2005 8:35:56 PM PDT by henderson field
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arresting officers' inability to communicate with either family in their native languages - Spanish and Hmong -

Aren't there any Americans anymore. When I took Civics as a Freshman, we were taught that for an immigrant to become a citizen, they had to pass English, history and geography tests. Has this changed or doesn't anyone care that we have 15 MILLIONS illegals in this country?

16 posted on 07/19/2005 8:37:10 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans (NRA))))
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To: NormsRevenge

Too many Hitler wanna-be people in police work these days. We need to have a law against police and other public officials lying to the public and to the media.


17 posted on 07/19/2005 8:39:31 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: zip

They may not be able to "communicate" with a police officer, but you can bet they can order the entire McDonald's menu in English and Super Size it, to boot.


18 posted on 07/19/2005 8:40:31 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: randog

Thanks for the laugh. I needed to lighten up a little. (BTW, you are right)


19 posted on 07/19/2005 8:50:11 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans (NRA))))
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To: NormsRevenge
A. He's in third grade: Police say they believe Elijah is 6 years old; hospital records show he's 8 and a half, Beshwate said.

Strike one for the cops.

B. Police said Tuesday that the AP story minimized ... the size of the rock (5.5 inches by 3.75 inches) the police report said (the gash) was four inches long; it turned out to be 1.2 inches long, according to hospital records cited by Beshwate

Strike two for the cops.

Strike three will be if it turns out they exaggerated the size of the rock by the same factors they exaggerated his age & size of the gash.

Of course, they also don't seem to know too much about who & how many, nor even how many of what, they actually dispatched; let alone who else was involved in the actual incident.

Also seems odd that the family of the "victim" (bully) disappeared, and doesn't seem to very actively sought.

Just a thought, but cases like this make me wish jurors could submit questions for witnesses, just so they would have a better chance at hearing the "whole truth" part that witnesses swear to tell, rather than just the parts that the prosecutor & defense each want heard.

20 posted on 07/19/2005 9:33:07 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more work horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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