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Bubble Fusion takes next hurdle
Heise onlin ^ | 18.07.2005 | Haiko LIetz

Posted on 07/19/2005 7:34:14 PM PDT by Arkie2

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1 posted on 07/19/2005 7:34:15 PM PDT by Arkie2
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"We found out that when comet-like streamers of bubbles formed the reactions would stop. Their irregular shape diminishes the bubbles' ability to compress the enclosed gas and subsequently prevents fusion reactions from occurring."

I hate it when that happens!

2 posted on 07/19/2005 7:40:04 PM PDT by The Duke
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tag for later


3 posted on 07/19/2005 7:40:13 PM PDT by flashbunny (Always remember to bring a towel!)
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To: The Duke

Happens in champagne all the time.


4 posted on 07/19/2005 7:41:59 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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Huh huh... Butt.

5 posted on 07/19/2005 7:42:29 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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I'm studying Real Estate Bubble Fusion.


6 posted on 07/19/2005 7:42:45 PM PDT by martin_fierro (We few. We silly few.)
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Ho-hum. I used to create Bubble Fusion when my mom gave me a bath.


7 posted on 07/19/2005 7:42:46 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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Fascinating - always thought that there was substance tothe first reports of coldfusion.

The big question is can it be commercialized


8 posted on 07/19/2005 7:43:01 PM PDT by spanalot
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Can they scale it up to power a home?


9 posted on 07/19/2005 7:44:20 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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Replication, an important step towards mainstream acceptance. I wonder if it's easily scalable and/or can be used for space propulsion?


10 posted on 07/19/2005 7:45:21 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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Since hot fusion has always been 20 years out for the last 60 years I'm guessing it will take at least 20 years to bring this to fruition. ;^)


11 posted on 07/19/2005 7:47:23 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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The Physicists I know have widely panned this entire branch of research as a waste of resources. I find it extremely difficult to accept that meaningful fusion on an scale useful as a energy source can be achieved with this approach, much less that fusion is even occurring at all.
12 posted on 07/19/2005 7:48:44 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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The Wright brothers were widely panned by experts in the field of manned flight. You should withhold judgement for a few more years at least until this plays out.

The article includes doubts from Seth Putterman who has said Taleyarkin's early experiments were flawed and has doubts about this experiment but even he says he expects eventual results from bubble fusion.


13 posted on 07/19/2005 7:54:02 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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We'll see, but my paltry 5 years of Nuclear Engineering training
is severely balking at the physics and the engineering.


14 posted on 07/19/2005 7:58:03 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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What's the old saying? There's always something new under the sun? Appropriate in this case.

Even if sonoluminescence isn't fusion it's still a very interesting phnomenon worthy of research.


15 posted on 07/19/2005 8:02:23 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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Now that is just perfect! A couple of Boilermakers inventing Bubble Fusion. Kinda like back to the future.


16 posted on 07/19/2005 8:07:13 PM PDT by Boiler Plate
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Chinese to Butt: "Ah, so!"


17 posted on 07/19/2005 8:08:52 PM PDT by ReadyNow
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Famouse Swedish-American Polka/Jazz Bubble Fusion empressario Lawrence Welk.

Nobody did bubbles like Lawrence Welk.

18 posted on 07/19/2005 8:09:09 PM PDT by keithtoo (Howard Dean's Democratic Party: Traitors, Haters, and Vacillators)
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"The Physicists I know have widely panned this entire branch of research as a waste of resources. I find it extremely difficult to accept that meaningful fusion on an scale useful as a energy source can be achieved with this approach, much less that fusion is even occurring at all."

Nuclear fission gives off a very similar signature (e.g. a 2.5MeV neutron even) to what has been recorded in these experiments...and nuclear fission occurs *naturally*...so it's hardly surprising that it is being observed in a lab experiment.

They claim that they are observing fusion, and they *may* be right (certainly that's the path to grant money), but I'm skeptical. They may just be observing fission.

As for scaling this sort of thing up, there are hurdles. Bubbles can only exist so close to each other. If the density of fission events isn't high enough, then no amount of scaling will ever produce more energy than it consumes (e.g. a self-sustaining chain reaction).

As in the above experiment, they will have to keep injecting energy (e.g. ultrasound) to keep stimulating a few fission/fussion events.

19 posted on 07/19/2005 8:15:22 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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All I need is some empty beer cans and a few banana peels.

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20 posted on 07/19/2005 8:15:56 PM PDT by benjaminjjones
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