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To: Dark Skies

"Does the name Van der Straaten mean anything to you?..."

Not at all and don't really care who he is.

I got a good picture of Joran, and you could say into his mind too at this link http://meetme.hotornot.com/r/?emid=GMOLKLR and all I can say he's not an amicable character by the looks. Rather kind of sleazy and despicable.

I know I should not be saying this based just on a picture and words, but if he did kill Natalee, I hope he gets what's coming to him. I wonder if they have the death penalty in Aruba.

Anyway, I always thought that this case is not just about who killed Natalee. It is also about how libertine parents let their children roam free in a foreign land w/o their supervision. I know they had chaperons, although not enough in my opinion.

The lesson to be learned here is to always keep your eyes on your children. Know where they are and with whom at all times. Personally I would not have sent my daughter alone (ie, w/o parental supervision) to Aruba. I'm aware that some of the chaperons were the parents of the girls themselves. But those parents were most likely keeping an eye on their own children, not someone else's children. Moreover, it's irrelevant that these children were under adult escort in Aruba if once in Aruba they were allowed to go to parties late into the wee hours of the morning.

I had wished this issue had been discussed on these threads too, but I haven't seen it. At least not in the threads I've reviewed.

So, while it's important that whoever hurt Natalee must pay for his deeds, it's equally important that parents be warned that lustful characters are lurking at every opportunity to get to our children.


359 posted on 07/19/2005 7:25:53 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: TAquinas
Thx Tom...God bless and good night.

DS

362 posted on 07/19/2005 7:28:39 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("I did not say that...I am not here.")
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To: TAquinas
Brilliant insight... absolutely brilliant!!
364 posted on 07/19/2005 7:30:23 PM PDT by Big Jake
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To: TAquinas

that these children

18 years old is not a child.


it's equally important that parents be warned that lustful characters are lurking

Give parents MORE credit than that - I don't think they need to be warned. Why not a little 'preaching' to Joran's parents?


385 posted on 07/19/2005 7:50:26 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: TAquinas

You might want to go back to the first Natalee Holloway thread and read through(see links on first page). Your point has been made multiple times ad nauseum. Thanks anyway....


387 posted on 07/19/2005 7:52:28 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: TAquinas

Huh? I thought you had already decided that the "3" security guards were the perps.


394 posted on 07/19/2005 7:54:57 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: TAquinas; Big Jake
"I had wished this issue had been discussed on these threads too, but I haven't seen it."

This topic was discussed very early.

What you now left unsaid is the Van Der Sloot's own comlpicity in this by essentially raising their son in precisely this manner. Read your "brilliant insight" once again, this time substituting the VDS's for the Twittys.

All this "self esteem" BS, and allowing a 17-year-old the freedom to roam and do as he pleases, and when he is caught in a crime, stick up for him.

465 posted on 07/20/2005 6:17:40 AM PDT by Designer
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