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Court Speculation Centers on Female Judge (Who Thinks Abortion is Constitutionally-Protected)
Yahoo! News (AP) ^ | 7/19/2005 | Deb Riechmann

Posted on 07/19/2005 6:49:13 AM PDT by Pyro7480

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To: Hildy

I don't accept the legitimacy of Roe v. Wade, it is a plainly unconstitutional decision. If the legislature makes it law, so be it, but courts do not make law under our Constitution, and until that is the case in reality I will be dissatisfied and work for change.


61 posted on 07/19/2005 8:02:50 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Abortion kills liberals)
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To: Oliver Optic

When they say she is seen as a conservative strict constructionist and then say she supports Roe, we have the media saying absolutely contradictory things.

If she is nominated, she will have a long record and that will be viewed in detail. I would not read much into anything she says in the hearings as no judge worth a damn will comment in a manner that details specific views.

I suspect she is a real strict constructionist and will move judiciously to reign in Roe, as well as other excesses.

One thing that does seem to be clear. She is FAR more of a Constitutionalist that O'Conner.


62 posted on 07/19/2005 8:03:02 AM PDT by Jim Verdolini (We had it all, but the RINOs stalked the land and everything they touched was as dung and ashes!)
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To: Hildy
ROE V. WADE WILL NEVER BE OVERTURNED. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER. Once you accept this, maybe you can make decisions that would be good for this Country. There are other issues besides abortion. Yikes.

Roe v. Wade is bad law in many respects and will be overturned if our country continues down its current path. Roe v. Wade is kind of a bellweather. I have never seen a judge that supports Roe v. Wade that was worthy on many other rulings.

63 posted on 07/19/2005 8:04:01 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Congressman Billybob

What is your leaning as to the accuracy of this 'leak' that Clement will be named? Am starting to have a gut instinct that this is a misdirection leak, and the actual nominee will be someone else. But I have no sources, nor a DC or legal background.


64 posted on 07/19/2005 8:04:43 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Pyro7480

Apparently all those who are being considered are women.

That already suggests that the selection is going to be PC.


65 posted on 07/19/2005 8:04:52 AM PDT by kidd
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To: concerned about politics
The left doesn't want the minorities educated and thinking for themselves, so their policies are to keep them dumb and poor

i've heard this alot, specifically in regards to what parties stand for. if republicans support the rich and enterprising, then they will do anything they can to keep those people rich and enterprising, and add more to their ranks. whereas if democrats support the poor and downtrodden, what will they do to keep voters?

66 posted on 07/19/2005 8:04:58 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: MamaTexan
No.... one that admits that NO governmental entity has the authority to legitimatize murder.

Abortion is a state issue, and the Supreme Court has no business forcing states to allow or forbid it. If this is her philosophy on this and other similar issues, then she will be a good judge.

67 posted on 07/19/2005 8:06:34 AM PDT by LWalk18
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To: Always Right

Fine...keep living in your fantasy world.


68 posted on 07/19/2005 8:07:31 AM PDT by Hildy ("You miss 100% of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky)
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To: Hildy
ROE V. WADE WILL NEVER BE OVERTURNED. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER.

There are a whole lot of people who will leave the GOP (me included) if we come to believe that.

69 posted on 07/19/2005 8:08:23 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: kevkrom
IOW, a 5th Circuit judge doesn't have the authority to overrule the USSC. What's the problem here?

Right, but Garza felt compelled, when the issue arose, to follow Roe v. Wade while criticizing it in an opinion. If Clement was strongly anti-Roe, she could have qualified her comment.

70 posted on 07/19/2005 8:10:23 AM PDT by Texas Federalist (No matter what my work/play ratio is, I am never a dull boy.)
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To: kevkrom

The context in which she said that is important. A Circuit Court does not have the authority to overrule the USSC. I guess we only hate activist judges when they're liberals.


71 posted on 07/19/2005 8:14:15 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: frossca
How can someone be a "strict constructionist" and believe in stare decis?

Stare decisis applies if the opinion is a reasonable interpretation of the text of the Constitution in light of it's original meaning.

72 posted on 07/19/2005 8:14:39 AM PDT by Texas Federalist (No matter what my work/play ratio is, I am never a dull boy.)
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To: kidd
Apparently all those who are being considered are women.

I love how Republicans stand against affirmative action while practicing it.

73 posted on 07/19/2005 8:15:30 AM PDT by Texas Federalist (No matter what my work/play ratio is, I am never a dull boy.)
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To: Texas Federalist
Garza felt compelled, when the issue arose, to follow Roe v. Wade while criticizing it in an opinion. If Clement was strongly anti-Roe, she could have qualified her comment.

That's the part that bothers me, too ... although I'm sure the White House handlers were telling her, "Don't say more than you need to. Just get confirmed."

74 posted on 07/19/2005 8:19:33 AM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: LWalk18
the Supreme Court has no business forcing states to allow or forbid it.

I would certainly agree with this statement, but abortion is a RIGHTS issue at the state OR national level.

Our government was created for one purpose only..to protect our rights. Our right to own property, our right to be secure in our homes...without our right to LIFE, all the other rights are meaningless.

I truly believe that since the court's right to murder the unborn was set into *law*, it has been expanded to include the murder of children AFTER their birth, and why women are sometimes given lighter sentences in child murder cases than men are.

(Not to mention it cheapens the existence of life in general)

Right now, I'm like a lot of other FReepers....keeping my fingers crossed and hoping that the Republicans don't decide to screw their base yet again.

75 posted on 07/19/2005 8:20:50 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am NOT a *legal entity*...nor am I a ~person~ as created by law!!)
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To: Hildy
ROE V. WADE WILL NEVER BE OVERTURNED. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER.

HARRY REID WILL TEAM UP WITH DANELLE SPENCER (Dee from "What's Happening") TO WIN THE NEXT "DANCING WITH THE STARS"!!!

I can make unsupported predictions in capital letters too.

76 posted on 07/19/2005 8:21:39 AM PDT by Texas Federalist (No matter what my work/play ratio is, I am never a dull boy.)
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To: Hildy
Fine...keep living in your fantasy world.

Right now we are two judges away, if we get this one confirmed we will be one judge away from overturning Roe v. Wade and many other bad decisions. You see that as 6/9ths empty, I see it as 3/9ths full and needing just 2 more 9ths. That is not fantasy world. The biggest thing keeping us from that goal will be Hillary in 2008.

77 posted on 07/19/2005 8:22:24 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Pyro7480

Any justice who gets appointed who is on record saying that abortion is constitutionally protected is not an originalist. Such an appointment would be a betrayal of a promise to appoint only strict constructionists.

I'd rather have Gonzales than that.


78 posted on 07/19/2005 8:24:00 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Hildy
I don't know, Hildy. In 1992 Roe was on the verge of being overturned.

The opinions were already being written ... then Anthony Kennedy got cold feet and backed out.

If we had gotten Bork instead of Kennedy, Roe would be history.

LINK

79 posted on 07/19/2005 8:26:06 AM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: xzins
Any justice who gets appointed who is on record saying that abortion is constitutionally protected is not an originalist.

Seriously, it seems like people were just waiting to b**ch about the choice, and pay no attention to the facts. Read the quote (and the context) again -- she says that the USSC says that abortion is constitutionally protected, she does not present her own view on the subject, which is only proper in a confirmation hearing.

80 posted on 07/19/2005 8:27:54 AM PDT by kevkrom (WARNING: If you're not sure whether or not it's sarcasm, it probably is.)
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