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Media Admits Rove is Innocent
The QandO Blog ^ | Wednesday, July 13, 2002 | Dale Franks(E-mail Jon Henke;McQ;Dale Franks)

Posted on 07/18/2005 8:20:32 PM PDT by cricket

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To: martin_fierro
Thank you once again.

Interestingly to me is all of the spinning going on in the MSM by the MSM - Cooper and his fellow travelers all writing about what they did/or/did not say to the Grand Jury.

We are not privy to the testimony so I consider their versions to what they testified suspect in the extreme. It appears more desperate defense than fact.

Until the Prosecutor indicts or not, everything is a guessing game. Therefore my guess is that Wilson/Plame are part of a conspiracy to undermine the American Intelligence community and the USA. Their motive: personal ambition, self aggrandizement, greed and promises from politicos to higher office. Wilson advised Kerry, after all.
61 posted on 07/18/2005 9:15:59 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: justche

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62 posted on 07/18/2005 9:16:07 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: bill1952

I've seen that pic before, but I still ROFLMAO every time.

Thanks!!


63 posted on 07/18/2005 9:16:10 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: Keith in Iowa
"You were right the first time. Amicus is signular. Aimici is plural."

Thanks. . . Yes, the brief reads. . .'Amici Brief 032305(Final.PDF) . . .more than forty pages long. . .'plural for sure; but 'brief' not ;^) (Blog had it as Amicus - referencing (mistakenly) entire document as 'one', I guess.)

64 posted on 07/18/2005 9:16:19 PM PDT by cricket (Just say NO U.N.)
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To: bannie
That is the democrat campaign bigwig Carvala(sp?) who openly predicted on election eve (among other times) that Kerry would run away with the election.

The nut-ball came on "Meet The Press" and broke an egg right on his forehead, in front of the world.

65 posted on 07/18/2005 9:17:05 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Keith in Iowa

"Aimici is plural."

Actually, Aimici is mis-spelled.
Report to Miss Kaufman's classroom
at 7:30 tomorrow morning for personal
make up. You will have to conjugate
the complete paradigm of Sto.

And bring your handkerchief. You know
how she hates people wiping their noses
on their sleeves.


66 posted on 07/18/2005 9:17:13 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: BlessedByLiberty
Therefore my guess is that Wilson/Plame are part of a conspiracy to undermine the American Intelligence community and the USA. Their motive: personal ambition, self aggrandizement, greed and promises from politicos to higher office. Wilson advised Kerry, after all.

My guess is they're double agents. That's why they're so rich !!!
Hanson also flashed his cash, just like Wilson.
Pleeeease. I've got money riding on it. Pooooolease!

67 posted on 07/18/2005 9:23:13 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: qam1
"You will only see one or two sentences on page 47 publically admitting this" What is disturbing. . .is that twenty-eight media outlets signed on to this brief; the same outlets that have been fueling the fires; worse. . .it includes Fox News. . .

. . .and I have been as curious, as I have been frustrated these past few weeks; watching their (Fox News) response to this story.

'Balanced' may include giving equal weight to Wilson's lies' but it is not fair in my book.

68 posted on 07/18/2005 9:23:55 PM PDT by cricket (Just say NO U.N.)
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To: righttackle44

See post #11. Corrected myself.


69 posted on 07/18/2005 9:24:43 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Talk Nerdy To Me)
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To: cricket

Amicus would be 1 person filing a brief...Amici is a group filing the brief...


70 posted on 07/18/2005 9:26:09 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Talk Nerdy To Me)
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To: vaudine; All
[. . .(Issikof)said that outting Plame is not it. It is all about a memo Colin Powell had on AF 1 giving Plames name and the crime may be leaking a secret document or even using the WH and power of Admin. to retaliate. He was so d@#m adamant, it made me mad. He intimated that the WH set out to punish Wilson. ]

For the Left; there are so many way to skin a cat. . .the Rove connection is failing. . .

. . .so let's just back up and find another Repub. . .'oh. . .Colin Powell'. . .(no use to us (Demrats) anymore; so why not?)

Desperate people saying desperate things. . .pathetic.

But why don't the Repubs just announce a new investigation of Plame and Wilson. . .their lies and their motivations. . .their treason.

If they do not have the 'stomach'; then they better had go home; because this 'Left' has a stomach made of iron.

71 posted on 07/18/2005 9:34:37 PM PDT by cricket (Just say NO U.N.)
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To: martin_fierro; NormsRevenge; bitt; neverdem; NYTexan; dixiechick2000; Liz; PilloryHillary; ...

BUMP and ping!


72 posted on 07/18/2005 9:40:33 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: concerned about politics

Great point about Hanson flashing cash.

Double agents angle is interesting. Perhaps Ms. Plame leaked sensitive information to her husband and that also could be part of the investigation.



73 posted on 07/18/2005 9:51:26 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: SandRat
The only problem is what on earth have the special prosecutor and the grand jury been doing the last couple of years if there was no initial crime. It should have taken all of -- let's be generous -- a day to read the statute, do a little fact checking, and figure out it didn't apply in this case.

I'm truly concerned that we may have a run-away prosecutor and grand jury here. I also think it is beyond despicable that a prosecutor would even take a case like this to a GJ. I think its worse than despicable, in a time of grave danger to this nation, that the prosecutor would not step forward and clear the air. If Rove or anyone else close to the POTUS and VPOTUS are being raked over the coals by the media -- but are not guilty of any offence -- then the prosecutor should come forward and say so.

If they are guilty of some chargeable offense, then the sooner the prosecutor brings an indictment, the better off the country will be, because we are in a genuine world war and can't afford to take our eye off the ball.

The various people ensnared in the web of these murky special counsel things are exposed to the danger of accidentally stepping into a peripheral crime, such as "obstruction of justice," when the matter that started it all isn't even a crime. In almost every one of these special prosector investigations, the central matter never goes to court. Yet the costs to the taxpayer and the people ensnared in the investigation's web is extraordinarily high. That's why the Congress let the special counsel law expire.

These are nothing but high-tech witch hunts. Plain and simple. If Fitzgerald can somehow snare himself a big-wig it makes his career, fame and fortune. That's a powerful incentive to keep pushing at people in the hope that they trip over their own memories of events. Same goes for any of the grand jurors in an era in which any one of them could walk out of there and sign a book deal.

I do not trust Fitzgerald and I do not trust this GJ.

74 posted on 07/18/2005 9:52:41 PM PDT by Wolfstar (The Dim Party and its fellow leftist travelers want nothing less than the fall of the United States.)
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To: cricket
The reality of the situation is it is going nowhere. Besides the media and a few Moveon.org clowns I really don't think anyone really gives a rat's ŧ§ about this story (actually I don't even think they care, they are just taking a shot in the dark hoping something sticks).

It's only annoying because the media including Rush, Sean & the Great One won't shut up about it.

The Democrats have thrown everything at Bush since he's taken office and this story is just has nothing to it (actually less than nothing, it's pretty pathetic even by their lame standards) that I'm sure when the average American hears the media reporting on this nonsense all they hear is a bunch of white noise and like me they just sigh a collective yawn.
75 posted on 07/18/2005 9:54:52 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: BlessedByLiberty
Great point about Hanson flashing cash.

Double agents angle is interesting. Perhaps Ms. Plame leaked sensitive information to her husband and that also could be part of the investigation.

Yeah. Rove is innocent, so there's no reason to investigate him for 2 (that we know of) years. By leaking info about "Rove", they keep the democrats and Co. from fleeing the country.

76 posted on 07/18/2005 9:55:52 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: mylife
"This really is a bunch of children pitchin a fit and not able to understand that adults can discern the truth"

'Children pitchin a fit' are in fact just that; children. . .innocent. . .at least, a work in progress. . .

These people are not 'child-like' by any stretch. . .they act totally, without moral boundaries; without rules/fairness. . .they are utilitarian; the 'end' THEY desire; justifies ANY means. . .their's is a 'self-serving' MO; couched in an imagined and arrogant, 'collective good'.

They are political terrorists, really. . .with allegiance not to their Country. . .or to anyone/anything. . .save a 'collective' goal that refuses to recognize that 'words mean things'; and that laws; rules. . .a society; a culture; must have a moral base to survive as relevant - meaningful and worthwhile.

Wish that they were just children. . .because we know, usually, they 'grow up'.

The prognosis for these Leftists is not so promising.

77 posted on 07/18/2005 9:58:17 PM PDT by cricket (Just say NO U.N.)
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To: cricket

Bush can't cave on Rove because it would have the effect of encouraging the mindless, liberal, cowards into continuing attacks on anyone or anything he promotes now or in the future.


78 posted on 07/18/2005 9:58:17 PM PDT by G Larry (Honor the fallen and the heroes of 9/11 at the Memorial Site.)
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To: writer33
Everyone knows the CIA isn't that smart. If you don't believe me, just ask the media.

Yeah...Thats what it is they are..... ALL incompetent.. Yeah thats the ticket

79 posted on 07/18/2005 9:58:31 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife
Democrats are working on the Fairness doctrine bill right now. They're scamming behind the scenes while the population is busy following Rove.
80 posted on 07/18/2005 10:02:47 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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