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Boeing Launches New Higher Capacity, Longer Range 737 (737-900ER)
Boeing ^ | July 18, 2005

Posted on 07/18/2005 7:31:29 PM PDT by Righty_McRight

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1 posted on 07/18/2005 7:31:30 PM PDT by Righty_McRight
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To: Paleo Conservative

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2 posted on 07/18/2005 7:32:28 PM PDT by Wiz
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It's a shame they did away with the 757 and decided to stretch the 737.


3 posted on 07/18/2005 7:34:26 PM PDT by chet_in_ny
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Why don't they just revive and juice-up the 757?


4 posted on 07/18/2005 7:34:33 PM PDT by stboz
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but, with the addition of a pair of exit doors and a flat rear pressure bulkhead, will carry 26 additional passengers, and smaller seats....ba$tards.
5 posted on 07/18/2005 7:34:36 PM PDT by evolved_rage (Its Bush's fault.)
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Took them long enough. The 737-900ER (-900X) has been something a lot of the European charter airlines have been wanting for some time now.
6 posted on 07/18/2005 7:34:39 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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...and smaller seats....ba$tards.

Seat width and size are totally up to each airline, no the manufacturer.

7 posted on 07/18/2005 7:35:47 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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I thought the same thing. Too bad they can't fly this thing in that config here... only in Asia. I'm 6'4"


8 posted on 07/18/2005 7:37:51 PM PDT by chet_in_ny
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It's a shame they did away with the 757 and decided to stretch the 737.

Why don't they just revive and juice-up the 757?

Boeing actually did float around the idea of a "757NG" but obviously the airlines said "no thanks".

Also, the 737-900ER really isn't a replacement for the 757 but more a competitor to the A321.

9 posted on 07/18/2005 7:41:36 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Tom Tancredo- The Republican Party's Very Own Cynthia McKinney.)
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Actually, I wouldn't put it above Alaska Airlines and Southwest Airlines to both place substantial orders for the 737-900ER. That means Alaska Airlines can fly more passengers on longer USA transcon routes and Southwest can use them on nonstops between USA West Coast cites (Seattle, Oakland, San Jose, Sacramento, Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Phoenix) US East Coast cities (Providence, Islip, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Jacksonville, Orlando, West Palm Beach and Fort Lauderdale).


10 posted on 07/18/2005 9:36:54 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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It's a shame they did away with the 757 and decided to stretch the 737.

The 757 is too heavy for most routes, and it has a different cockpit than the 737NG's. If you don't need the range of a 757 to cross the Atlantic, a 737-900ER has enough range to cross North America while being lighter.

Continental is taking its 757-200's off of domestic routes and putting them on transatlantic routes from the east coast especially from Newark. They are replacing their 757-200's on domestic routes with a combination of 737-800's and 757-300's.

11 posted on 07/18/2005 11:13:33 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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That means Alaska Airlines can fly more passengers on longer USA transcon routes and Southwest can use them on nonstops between USA West Coast cites (Seattle, Oakland, San Jose, Sacramento, Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Phoenix) US East Coast cities (Providence, Islip, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Jacksonville, Orlando, West Palm Beach and Fort Lauderdale).

Perhaps Southwest wants to be able to compete against JetBlue for the transcon market. The 737-900ER should have advantages for Southwest compared to JetBlue's A320's. The 737-900ER carries more passengers and will be able to perform transcon service year round without technical stops to refuel. JetBlue sometimes has to refuel on their transcon flights. The 737-900ER should also have better performance at hot and high airports like LAX, Phoenix, Denver, etc. than the A320.

12 posted on 07/18/2005 11:20:29 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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Took them long enough. The 737-900ER (-900X) has been something a lot of the European charter airlines have been wanting for some time now.

I wonder if Continental will pickup some 757-200's from some of the European charter airlines that switch to the 737-900ER?

13 posted on 07/18/2005 11:23:13 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail not by posting to this thread.

14 posted on 07/18/2005 11:24:19 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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Lion needs them, they fly some really crappy MD80's.


15 posted on 07/18/2005 11:24:52 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (I've always had the 'gift' to see the truth.)
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757 also has different avionics, much different composite stucture and all that.

Hey, I pinged you to a thread I did today, classic airliners in the boneyard...


16 posted on 07/18/2005 11:27:06 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (I've always had the 'gift' to see the truth.)
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757 also has different avionics, much different composite stucture and all that.

Which means it wouldn't appeal to a low cost carrier with an all 737 fleet. With a different cockpit and avionics, it would be necessary to have different pools of pilots to fly them. By having a longer ranged variant of the 737-900, an airline can expand services while maintaining compatibilty with other 737's in its fleet and minimizing additional maintenance costs associated with adding a different aircraft type to the fleet.

17 posted on 07/18/2005 11:44:10 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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My airline announced Hawaii service last week in our old 757's. We are ETOP'sing them and will be flying to 4 destinations in Hawaii!


18 posted on 07/18/2005 11:49:12 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (I've always had the 'gift' to see the truth.)
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My airline announced Hawaii service last week in our old 757's. We are ETOP'sing them and will be flying to 4 destinations in Hawaii!

How much work does it take to upgrade an existing plane to ETOPS standards? I know there's a lot more paper work to maintain. Will they have to modify the hardware?

19 posted on 07/18/2005 11:58:54 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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Its my former airline, but I have retiree flight bennies. Its about 6-8 months or more of simulated ETOPS180 flights, and then you have to put in a backup APU I believe, rafts, training, etc.

We got halfway through ETOPS twice back in the ugly bankruptcy days, money down the drain. Technically speaking, we could ETOP our A319's, but no one has ever done that, it has the same range as the 737-700, and Aloha runs those to the mainland.


20 posted on 07/19/2005 12:02:55 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (I've always had the 'gift' to see the truth.)
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