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First post, long time lurker :)

The authorization came from from George Tenant's office. At behest of VP cheney. As the Niger Documents were under suspicion.
WE needed some WMD evidence to justify a "legal" invasion of IRAQ. Things didn't go our way.

This is where things took a wrong turn. It's incredible that this hasn't come out sooner. I think Rove did "out" Plame. I think he was doing what he thought was right, to keep things on track. Discredit Wilson and his "fact finding Mission". Keep the ball rolling toward IRAQ. (still puzzled about OBL walking around... We will get to him in due time.)

WE have accomplished alot of things in the last 4.5 to 5 years. We should just weather this out. It will blow away soon enough.

About this Gannon article.
*tin foil hat* material

Let's not get off base here. This whole "CIA out to get Bush.." thing is way out of character based on historical precedents of the CIA way.

They took one on the chin with 9/11, and needed to "CYA" their activities (Wilson trip and the referral to the Justice on the leak). A cross you 't's and dot your 'i's sort of thing.

1) GHW bush Sr. was CIA director.

the CIA is an old boys network. Hence I don't think the CIA squad is out to get Bush JR.

2) The Dems have NO POWER.
not in the executive
Not the judicial
Not in the senate or congress.

3) GW is surrounded by the "old guard" of CIA/SPOOK/Pentagon

community. Not really an "impotent" crowd of people in the intelligence community.

4) Dems haven't had any power in the CIA for long long time.

Tenant?

resigned...

Recives medal of Freedom.

Not what I would call "suspect"

I think the current way of handling this affair is the right one. Let our party leaders hammer the press. The dems can bark all they want.

THey got no bite.

Mission accomplished. I think our time would be better spent looking at some DOmestic issues, and other areas of Foreign policy (China anyone?)

Glad to see you posting. :) Your post, however, seems to be directed at another's post; not mine - as there are some references you make to matters I've not written of.

Nonetheless, I'll bite.

The authorization came from from George Tenant's office. At behest of VP cheney. As the Niger Documents were under suspicion. WE needed some WMD evidence to justify a "legal" invasion of IRAQ. Things didn't go our way.

Based on my own knowledge base -- I'll match you with my own: The CIA was always looking for more data, regardless of the WOT. This is what the CIA "does". One specific search operative may in fact have dealt specifically with documents related to "bills of lading" specifying "uranium" or other WMD-related materials. This would have been true, and ongoing whether or not "the Niger Documents were under suspicion". So, nothing is new here.

What was new? A flunkie CIA operative with past experiences in WMDs and covert operations recommends her husband, Wilson, for the job of digging up "those documents". George Tenet, I believe, would NOT have approved this proposal from Plame. Why? Because it would have been truly stupid operational policy to do so.

This is where things took a wrong turn. It's incredible that this hasn't come out sooner. I think Rove did "out" Plame. I think he was doing what he thought was right, to keep things on track. Discredit Wilson and his "fact finding Mission".

Matt Cooper called Karl Rove in re another matter (healthcare, I believe). Then, fully armed with the real purpose for his call, asked Karl Rove about "Niger". Had Rove replied: No comment, good shot Cooper would have interpreted that as "SEE! WH IS PANICKED". Instead, Karl Rove replied that there was more to Niger than "Wilson's report". Wilson's wife recommended him for the investigative task. This now is interpreted as "outting" Plame in MSM venues.

Of course, the MSM is not focused whatsoever on the "more to Niger than "Wilson's Report". Of course not. One of the usual tactics of the left is "outting". Outting Republican Gays, Outting this, outting that. Outting their own members who don't toe the party line. Republicans do not generally do "outtings". Republicans go after issues; Democrats go after people.

Keep the ball rolling toward IRAQ. (still puzzled about OBL walking around... We will get to him in due time.)

I'm not at all puzzled about OBL walking around, yet. We still have issues with China and Pakistan. Everytime our forces get close, zippo, OBL seems to disappear to Pakistan and/or China. Instead, US is working diplomatically -- would you rather our forces invade un-agreed-upon the sovereignty of other nations in order to 'nab' OBL? This is what the left claims to say they wish to have happen -- invading countries which have not given US clear communications to do so -- WHILE the left accuses the US of Imperialism. US is working with Pakistan and China. OBL will be got. I can wait for channels to be cleared in order to get OBL. He will be got.

WE have accomplished alot of things in the last 4.5 to 5 years. We should just weather this out. It will blow away soon enough.

We have indeed accomplished a lot of things -- I agree with you. We are weathering this latest Dem-wrought rhuburb; but this time, with stronger anger and facts than before. This must also happen. the MSM refuses to awaken to what they are perpetrating upon the public in the name of "politics of meaning". Balderdash.

) GHW bush Sr. was CIA director. the CIA is an old boys network. Hence I don't think the CIA squad is out to get Bush JR.

Nothing wrong with past experience with CIA; good in fact in a leader. Howevers, subscribing to the notion that the "total" CIA is pro-Bush? Hardly. CIA is also subject to bonuses, payraises, etc. Meaning, human. The fact that GHW Bush Sr was a PAST CIA director -- as indicative that the CIA as a whole is ... "pro-Bush"? One would have to suspend HISTORY in order to support that theory. THE CIA of past has been horribly fractured due bad policies and appointments. To suggest the CIA is in full concurment about President Bush, is to suggest that CA Dems with their love of "celebrityness" is thoroughly enamored of Governor Schwarzennegger.

I think our time would be better spent looking at some DOmestic issues, and other areas of Foreign policy (China anyone?)

I'm game. And while the Dems, and Dem Voters are so busy targetting Republicans for "destruction" via usual means (Weapons of Mass MSM), The US has been steadily busy working on domestic issues and other areas of Foreign Policy. As awful as this Rove/Plame matters has been? While the grasshoppers have been playing their usual "make the political, personal" games, the grownups have been enacting wonderful things.

It's become rather easy to provide "issues babysitters" for the MSM and Democrats. Democrats provide their own with "issues babysitters". Repubs just keep on working.