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To: Graybeard58

Some of you may remember this same experiment in the 70s. We had quite a few companies that offered the ethanol formula substitute. It finally faded away. Why is this touted like some revolutionary technology? My gosh, the Japanese were using coal powered vehicles right at the end of the war, so burning corn/soybeans/grass is new?

Ok, now everyone trot out their hydrogen powered econoboxes, I want to see them. I'm not poo-pooing legitimate ideas but some of this stuff is cost-prohibitive, just like the study shows, DUH!

Let's just take over the Middle Eastern oil fields, manage them properly like good capitalists, make some money and create a stable market, heck the Left is accusing us of doing that anyway, let's oblige them!


6 posted on 07/17/2005 4:15:50 PM PDT by brushcop (We lift up Pvt. Johnny Chrzenowski in prayer, recovering from burns received in an RPG ambush, Iraq.)
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To: brushcop
"Ok, now everyone trot out their hydrogen powered econoboxes, I want to see them."

Hydrogen would be great except the only hydrogen we have in any abundance on earth is hydrogen that has already been burned. It can be manufactured (un-burned) but that costs more energy than you would get burning it as a fuel.

In that sense, hydrogen is not a source of energy at all. It's just a rather poor storage mechanism for energy. The only way hydrogen can be a source of energy is in a fusion reactor.
14 posted on 07/17/2005 4:24:02 PM PDT by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
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To: brushcop

There is more oil in the Gulf of Mexico than Saudi Arabia. Let's lobby for drilling off Florida.


21 posted on 07/17/2005 4:32:54 PM PDT by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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now everyone trot out their hydrogen powered econoboxes

"They conclude the country would be better off investing in solar, wind and hydrogen energy. "

31 posted on 07/17/2005 4:44:15 PM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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