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To: Pukin Dog

I know you are hanging on to your SCOTUS theory, PD....but I still think this is about removing Rove. He's been seen meeting with Guliani and the libs know he'll likely agree to advise whoever the R candidate is in '08. They can't afford to be outwitted again....especially since it's for all the marbles (i.e., Hillary).


3 posted on 07/17/2005 9:53:34 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
You're right, and along the way the Dems want to damage Bush in any way possible. I don't see "trying to stop SCOTUS appointments" as being some shocking revelation, frankly. The Dems want to use Rove as one engagement in an ongoing battle--you don't have to be an insider to see that. And taking out Rove for the future would be a major victory, seeing how they wish they had their own Rove.

The Dems want to damage Bush in any way possible. Not only is this not news, it's a story that's five years old.

9 posted on 07/17/2005 9:58:01 AM PDT by Dr.Hilarious ("My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity."-Joe W)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Its not about Rove, because they know that they have nothing on him, and that what he did would not have been illegal anyway. It is only an effort at undermining the President's authority. Just you wait. The drumbeat for tying this all to Bush will get much larger this week, because of Bush staying loyal to Rove.

None of it matters, because the Bush Administration knows exactly what is going on.
13 posted on 07/17/2005 10:04:41 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: anniegetyourgun
They can't afford to be outwitted again....especially since it's for all the marbles (i.e., Hillary).

Think of it this way...If it's not Hillary-ious, who else is there for them to try electing. There is a steep drop-off of electability for anyone else.

46 posted on 07/17/2005 10:30:10 AM PDT by rock58seg (RINO"s make the Republicans MINO"s (Majority In Name Only)!)
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To: anniegetyourgun
This IS all about Rove. The MD Dems have gotten their panties in a wad over Rove helping out with a Michael Steele fundraiser. They are seriously concerned about the Senate seat in MD, and think by taking out Rove it will help them keep the MD seat and also keep Repub money out of MD.

This is despicable, but they are desparate.

79 posted on 07/17/2005 11:24:03 AM PDT by gramho12
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To: anniegetyourgun
The real solution to all this mess is to quit talking to reporters! When will we learn that they are NOT our friends.
86 posted on 07/17/2005 11:31:16 AM PDT by timestax
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To: anniegetyourgun

I agree Annie. It's all about Rove. The Democrats think he is one dangerous Republican. They think the rest of us are dimwits and Rove is the brain.


107 posted on 07/17/2005 1:01:52 PM PDT by MizRiz9
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To: anniegetyourgun

Don't tell me Rove is going to back RINO Giuliani ):


123 posted on 07/17/2005 1:45:58 PM PDT by balch3
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To: anniegetyourgun

Could minor Ambassador Joe Wilson himself have been the source in blowing his own Wife's cover?

It is distinctly possible, (though it may be unlikely that Joe Wilson himself directly was NY Times Judith Miller's source), since Joe Wilson himself evidently routinely bragged openly to strangers about her CIA employment, prior to such "cover" being "blown" in the press.

Here's an example of Joe's apparently routine and open bragging about Valerie being a "CIA agent," which became known directly to me over a year ago:

He certainly bragged about it per a famous and highly reliable source's (named below) account of his own face-to-face encounter with Amb. Joe Wilson prior to Valerie Plame's "outing" as a CIA agent/employee.

Based upon a personal conversation (we were in a small group eating; it was NOT an "off the record") I had with eminent historian Victor Davis Hanson (we were at a luncheon table together during a trip to Europe), it appeared entirely possible that Joe Wilson himself was the (or one source, if not the original one) possible source in revealing his own wife's status as a CIA agent or employee.

Victor Davis Hanson (Wilson presumably knew Victor Davis Hanson wrote regularly for NRO (National Review Online), had done OpEds for the Wall street Journal, and other publications, and had his own Website with a widespread following) said he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were both in the same "Green Room" before a televised debate-discussion on Iraq, etc. and Joe first warned the TV make-up person not to get powder on his $14,000 Rolex watch, then he bragged to Victor about several things (possessions and trips to Aspen, etc.), like his expensive car (I think it was a Mercedes), and then bragged about his beautiful ("hot") wife who, Joe Wilson said (braggingly) was a CIA operative.

I asked Victor Davis Hanson Why he didn't write up this account.(?) He replied that Joe Wilson would probably simply deny it, since only he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were in the Green Room together before the broadcast.

However, it is now easy to surmise that Joe Wilson is a crass, materialistic, self-promoting, vain, egotistical, bragaddocio-opportunist, so this account is perfectly consistent with Valerie Plame's TWO photo shoots in Vanity Fair. (Or was it Vogue? No, probably too crass for Vogue, n'est pas?)


153 posted on 07/17/2005 5:21:31 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Gonzales appears to be quite WEAK on Property rights!)
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