Keep on saying that, and maybe someone around here will believe it. I honestly don't think you're intelligent enough to checkmate anyone on this forum, much less someone who pays attention to all sides of issues (instead of just soaking up the rhetoric).
This coming from a clintonesque phony who excuses the wide open border by saying "t's a problem that was around long before Dubya "
then when I call you on your bullsh*t, clintonesque answer you say "Because you don't have an answer for an obvious fact".
On top of that, I'll re-post this:
You said (regarding border control) "That is a defensive strategy, which is not effective against terrorism."
Closing the border isn't effective against terrorism? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SMOKING?
You're not intelligent enough to participate on this forum. Please go back to DU, where you'd be on equal footing.