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Michael Barone on Fox
07/16/05 | self

Posted on 07/17/2005 8:09:51 AM PDT by TheGeezer

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To: Balding_Eagle
Looks like they were either wrong or lying

It's possible that the criminal referral was a defensive tactic initiated by the same rogue element that gave Wilson official travel orders to Niger. CIA officials at higher levels would probably not be inclined to squelch a criminal referral.

21 posted on 07/17/2005 8:40:49 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: GloriaJane
So I'm watching for a boomerang to come back and hit a dem (maybe even a senator) right between the eyes.

So many juicy Senatoral targets. Hah, I could only wish it would turn out to be Pat "Leaky" Leahy.

22 posted on 07/17/2005 8:44:01 AM PDT by csvset
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To: mass55th
I too think that Fitzgerald is going after whoever lied under oath and it isn't Rove

And conspiracy charges. This whole "scandal" is covering up Wilson's stupidity. See #14 and #18.
How could no one else have seen the book review from the left wing? It was a left wing news station! (Ok, so I was just surfing, I was bored).

Was it so long ago no one remembers? No one wants to remember??? They know but don't want it to be known by others?

Wilson gave a copy of his books first draft to a reporter. Period!

23 posted on 07/17/2005 8:48:39 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: GloriaJane
Usually when the dem's come out swinging at a Republican, like they've done this last week at Rove, it's because it's something that they, the dems themselves are guilty of. In other words they cover up for their missdeeds by pointing the finger at the other guy. And I think the media is somehow involved in their cover up.

The veracity of your statement becomes more obvious and undeniable by the hour.

24 posted on 07/17/2005 8:52:47 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Al-Jazeera is to the Iraqi War as CBS was to the Vietnam War.)
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To: Patriot from Philly
Mr Barone, signed a copy of his most recent book for me during CPAC in Feb. Without exaggeration he asked everyone he spoke too where they were from, (I mean state and county) He then spoke about the voting pattern in each county.

The man is an encyclopedia..

25 posted on 07/17/2005 8:53:48 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch"....... "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: TheGeezer

Yet, about an hour prior, they had Spikey Isikoff on there stating that not only had Rove leaked the info, but he'd lied to the grand jury.


26 posted on 07/17/2005 8:54:50 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: mware

yes, I'll never forget when he called Ohio for Bush and went precinct by precinct on why.


27 posted on 07/17/2005 8:56:26 AM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: sirchtruth

are you unaware of the undeclared war between CIA and State Dept vis a vis the Iraq War? the beat goes on...


28 posted on 07/17/2005 8:56:40 AM PDT by avital2
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To: Rokke; sirchtruth

Check the "breaking news" sidebar. It seems one of her bosses at the CIA says she was NOT covert. At least, he went on record and used his name--as opposed to "anonymous sources" (which, as near as I can tell, means "voices in my head.").


29 posted on 07/17/2005 8:57:47 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: ClaireSolt

I think there is going to be a shocker at the end of this case. The liberal biased media and Dems are going to go into the vapors.

Fitzgerald is persuing Joe Wilson for perjury and obstruction of justice and leaking classified information. I went back and read a Newsweak story from August 2004 about Colin Powell testifying before the grand jury. At the end of the piece "someone familiar with the investigation" said they were wrapping up the case, but the Senate Intelligence Committee had just released their report on pre war intelligence and there were some troubling things in it regarding Joseph Wilson. His public statements did not comport with the reports conclusions of Plame's involvement and they were looking into it. I think the Wilson's (both) testified before the grand jury and LIED. I imagine the investigators are wondering why Wilson waited 18 months after his trip to Niger before writing a hit piece in the NYT about it all. What was Wilson doing in July 2003? He was advising the KERRY CAMPAIGN. Is this political "dirty tricks" using classified info.

Wilson wrote that piece which was based on "classified information". His wife was not "covert" and had not been since 1997 and according to her boss at the time (per Washington Times) she had a limited roll and not a "deep under cover" status. He was scornful of the whole thing.

AS far as Judith Miller of the NYT is concerned, she is NOT protecting an administration source, she is protecting JOE WILSON. Scooter Libby (Cheney's Chief of Staff) has told the grand jury that he found out about Plame from a reporter, the same as Rove. Libby has said he talked to Judith Miller AND Libby and Rove both signed waivers to "any person" they spoke to about the case in July 2003.

Why would she go to jail when she had a waiver from Libby to talk? Because her source is Joe Wilson who wrote the "article of lies" in her newspaper, the NYT. There is a reason she never wrote about this case. I believe Wilson told her that his wife was "covert".

ALSO, ask yourself where we first heard that Valerie Plame was an "undercover agent". Answer: From Joe Wilson on the Today Show. He outed his own wife.

I believe Judy Miller will be charged with criminal contempt and Joe Wilson and maybe his wife will be charged as well. That will be sweet justice.

Stay tuned. I hope the media is humiliated. Hummmm, don't hold your breath. These Bush-haters, conservative hating sharks have no shame or integrity. No wonder they have no credibility.


30 posted on 07/17/2005 9:00:01 AM PDT by nightowl
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To: Patriot from Philly
LOL, when Barone asked me what part of NJ I was from I was tempted to say Cape May County, but my Catholic guilt would not allow me too.

He kind of smiled at me when in a hang dog expression I told him Atlantic County.

31 posted on 07/17/2005 9:01:08 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch"....... "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: concerned about politics

I think that the investigation is on the right track and is focused on persons in the media and the Democrat party who were involved in a conspiracy to frame Rove for a crime which never even happened and lied to investigators and the grand jury in furtherance of the conspiracy.


32 posted on 07/17/2005 9:01:48 AM PDT by Iwo Jima
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To: mware

Cape May - one of my favorite places!


33 posted on 07/17/2005 9:03:51 AM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: Patriot from Philly
Cape May, yes a very pretty place and one of the few counties in South Jersey to vote Republican.
34 posted on 07/17/2005 9:05:10 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch"....... "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: MizSterious
Check the "breaking news" sidebar. It seems one of her bosses at the CIA says she was NOT covert. At least, he went on record and used his name--as opposed to "anonymous sources" (which, as near as I can tell, means "voices in my head.").

Ok good point. I have read that and nothing says that she could not have been covert in 2003.

Why did the CIA send a referral?
Why is a reporter siting in jail for not diclosing a source who revealed Plame's name?
Why was Karl Rove and all these other people being investigated for leaking a name if she wasn't covert?
Why even investigate if she was NOT covert?

35 posted on 07/17/2005 9:06:40 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: Iwo Jima
I think that the investigation is on the right track and is focused on persons in the media and the Democrat party who were involved in a conspiracy to frame Rove for a crime which never even happened and lied to investigators and the grand jury in furtherance of the conspiracy.

Yes. That's why Bush told Americans, calmly, not to pay attention to the media reports. He said wait until the investigation has ended.

36 posted on 07/17/2005 9:07:39 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: mware

That's two good things about Cape May!!!


37 posted on 07/17/2005 9:08:14 AM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: avital2
are you unaware of the undeclared war between CIA and State Dept vis a vis the Iraq War? the beat goes on...

I am now, what's the point?

38 posted on 07/17/2005 9:08:29 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: TheGeezer

"Wilson wrote in his book that his wife did not suggest him for the Niger mission, and that was not true, so Wilson has zero credibility."

Wilson lied. MSMS cried.

"Barone said it is clear now that Plame was not a covert operative and so there has been no violation of the law protecting covert agents."

We have discovered a new innovation in journalism: Seinfeld journalism, stories about nothing.

The Rove-Plame link is a big pile of nothing.


39 posted on 07/17/2005 9:09:22 AM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: TheGeezer

The correct question that no one wants to touch.

How many other Clinton appointed former U.S. Ambassadors are married to CIA agents?


40 posted on 07/17/2005 9:10:07 AM PDT by TET1968
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