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1 posted on 07/16/2005 2:49:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"They were always talking about the same thing: how the West is out to destroy Islam," said Ali.

Not logical, as anytime the West (or even just the US) really decided to destroy Islam, it would take about 30 minutes. As Islam may find out, if it insists on pushing things.

2 posted on 07/16/2005 3:02:26 PM PDT by Restorer (Liberalism: the auto-immune disease of societies.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Excuses, excuses.

So what videos enraged the Muslims who sacked Spain in the year 711? What was George W. Bush and Israel doing to those poor Muslims then?

3 posted on 07/16/2005 3:10:16 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Muslim are oppressed, Muslims are being killed..."

Sounds like what the black muslims over here are saying...

5 posted on 07/16/2005 3:17:32 PM PDT by Humidston (Hillary's Full Name - EVITA PEYRONie's CLINTON)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The families of Khan and the third suspected bomber from Leeds, Hasid Hussain - the 18-year-old believed to have blown up the double-decker bus - condemned the attacks and claimed they had no idea what they were planning.

There are only two possibilities:

These people are the dumbest homo sapiens on earth.
Or it is the traditional muslim lie.

I lean toward the latter.

6 posted on 07/16/2005 3:24:09 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The world we now live in still seems so surreal to me. Western civilization has never faced a more insidious and cruel enemy. These people’s sense of values and morality are completely alien to anything we in the West believe – not in our most wild imaginings could we have conceived of an enemy whose very religion teaches that commiting suicide and blowing apart women and children is right and virtuous – you can’t get anymore depraved than that. This isn’t an enemy that faces us on a battlefield, this is an enemy that skulks around in the dark and strikes at our most helpless. I’m sick of hearing lefties wringing their hands and saying that it’s all our fault for going into Iraq. These people were blowing us up even before Afghanistan. They’re commiting acts of terrorism for one reason and one reason only – we are not Muslims. It is their religious destiny to convert the entire world to Islam by any means. They view non-muslims as Infidel – less than human. Anyone who is an Infidel is fair game to these human cockroaches – civilians, women, children. Any act of cruelty they can perpetrate is extolled – the more barbaric, the more barbaric, the more horror and carnage and suffering they can cause, the better. This is the enemy – a people whose mentality hasn’t advanced beyond the 11th century.

The Brits are a tough lot. The average Joe-six-pack isn’t taking this lying down, as evidenced by the attacks on Muslims who are plotting within their own country. When our country was attacked on 911, my very blood cried out for vengeance, as in “Remember Pearl Harbor”, or “Remember the Alamo”. I assumed that would be the feeling of most Americans. Unfortunately, we are not the same Americans we were 60 years ago, and I couldn’t believe the simpering and crying of our over-abundance of lefties all wanting to know what we did to bring this on ourselves and what we could do to smooth things over and make everything all right. As far as I’m concerned, when those pieces of shit flew two of our planes into two of our buildings killing 3,000 of our fellow Americans, all bets were off. If those animals ever had any grievances of any kind, it’s all moot now.

I had three nephews who served in the Marines in Iraq. One of them didn’t come back home. Although our loss is great, I know that he didn’t die in vain. We are now engaged in a monumental struggle against any enemy who has no scruples, no boundaries, no morality, no right to share this planet with the rest of us, and we will prevail. We will prevail because there are more Brits and Americans than there are panty-wetters who recognize the evil nature of the enemy and know that this is a war that we must and will win.


7 posted on 07/16/2005 3:28:28 PM PDT by Shenandoah
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"It started off with scenes of Muslims being killed or persecuted: Iraq, Palestinians, Chechnya. It had Bush saying the word `crusade.' It was slick and really made you feel angry," said Ali. "I know it was propaganda and was made to make you feel this way. But what about young guys who see this material as a call to do something?

Gee, maybe he was showing Ali a Michael Moore film. Moore's garbage is intended to do the same thing as this DVD did, namely recruit anti-American fanatics to aid in the fight against Western civilization, human rights, and human liberty, right?

9 posted on 07/16/2005 3:34:57 PM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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These clowns are just making excuses. I saw Michael Moore's opus turdus and I haven't bombed anything.


10 posted on 07/16/2005 3:48:29 PM PDT by rogue yam
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"So someone comes along and says, `Muslim are oppressed, Muslims are being killed by the West,' and so on," said Ali, whose late father emigrated to Britain from Pakistan. "For some young lads who are confused and feel alienated, it's a powerful thing to hear. If it happened with young Muslims here, it's happening everywhere."

Gee, they left out the part about Muslims slaughtering fellow Muslims.

Go figure.

11 posted on 07/16/2005 3:50:28 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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>> Both the bookstore and youth site have been searched and sealed by police.

Methinks a little surveillance and/or infiltration prior to the bombing might have been a bit more effective than "searching and sealing" afterward.
12 posted on 07/16/2005 4:03:30 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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"We used to joke that they were like the Muslim version of the Mormons or born-again Christians," said Ali. "They would ask if anyone wanted to attend lectures or just talk further. A few would go, but we didn't pay them much attention."

Sounds like the NOI (Nation of Islam) in their white shirts.


13 posted on 07/16/2005 5:14:39 PM PDT by No2much3
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It's bound to be the same everywhere, in Australia these islamic bookshops are stocked and kept stocked for free by the wahhabi's - all the material comes from Saudi. Imported clerics who have taken over the mosques, quite often against the wishes of the muslim community, direct the youth to the 'bookshops' which are nothing but wahhabi propaganda centres.
But on the surface, they are bookshops, nothing illegal is going on there...it's a religion, and recruitment to jihad is a valid 'religious' activity, isn't it?
We are utterly stupid. There will be a lot more deaths before we wake up. Law enforcement can't protect us while the law to protect us doesn't exist!


14 posted on 07/16/2005 5:53:17 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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Hi, This story has been over exaggerated. I have been looking in to it. I have been mis-quoted as they have tried to make it as though i know what went on in that book shop, therefore I had to look in to it to try and find the truth as only the truth can set us free.I don’t know what made the bombers do that terrible thing or why the twin towers went down or who did it!someone said it was the government? But what do i know. They,re saying it was a controlled demolition on the 3 buildings that went down! The only 3 metal structure buildings in the world to go down because of a fire!
I have seen a dvd called loose change 9/11.
Who was in-charge of security in the world trade centre? The third building was used by the FBI to hold evidence on big time stock brokers? Is this true?
I think they call it black flag opps!
Were the feds in on it? just like 7/7 with their undercover special forces guy(SBS). It looks to me like the government know more than its telling us. Just as on 7/7 and 9/11 there were government mock exercises, the same as what happened on those days? strange? So who was it? I don’t know but the truth will come out.
I was born a Muslim but i believe in Scientology!So what does that say?
18 posted on 10/03/2007 6:41:16 AM PDT by amear-ali
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