Posted on 07/16/2005 12:37:54 PM PDT by Arkie2
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It's better to have it right the first time rather than (for example) placing mirrors on backwards. Then costing the taxpayer billions to shoot up a repair vehicle just to replace the mirrors. Dumb dodos!
Bet you didn't know they could have built three Hubbles and placed them in geosynchronous orbit for the price of the one up there now. Why, you ask, didn't they do it? Well, the launch of the Hubble had to be tied to the shuttle to prove it's worth as a cargo vessel. A purely political decision.
I'm sure India or China will build us a new fleet.
Now you've really ticked me off with that news. NASA needs overhauling bad--really bad.
Pssst: Ask him for the actual cost analysis before you let any unsupported claims get you riled up.
The new fleet is already on the drawing boards and will be an enormous improvement over what we have now because they've decided to split the cargo and manned mission between two vehicles, return to capsule re-entry, and make the vehicles scalable.
Unfortunately they won't be online for 5-10 years. Meantime, NASA feels compelled to prove it's still in the manned program with the shuttle. It's a recipe for another disaster.
It's always fun hearing from the "the glass isn't half empty, it's going to break and cut an artery, it's all futile" crowd...
Thanks! Was so riled up I spilled my cup of hot chocolate down the front of my prized Mickey Mouse t-shirt. I'm calm now and my t-shirt is dirty.
"A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for."
-- Rear Admiral Grace Murray Hopper (1906-1992)
I'd be PO'd if I'd spilled something on my Memin Pinguin Tshirt....
It's always fun hearing from the "we should keep throwing up a discredited piece of crap just so we can prove we've got a manned program" crowd.
Or about the cost to the Superconducting Super Collider and real science, contra 'technology'.
The statement "Let's Fly" uttered by the crewmembers says it all for me.
It says it for me too, I'd rather "fly" than be spam in a can.
"Let's Fly!"
Face it, the reality is that we must use what we HAVE until
we can produce another state of the art vehicle which itself
will no doubt be obsolete in 10 years.
No, what it says to me is that the entire program is run by a bunch of high testosterone flyboys who have little, if any, concern about costs or an unmanned alternative. Their blind, macho Bravado is unnerving at best. The cost/safety issues would be enough to scrap any other program less politically connected and less publicized.
IMO 90% or more of the missions flown by the Shuttle could have been achieved by unmanned alternatives but then the Pilots wouldn't be needed would they.
No, what it says to me is that the entire program is run by a bunch of high testosterone flyboys who have little, if any, concern about costs or an unmanned alternative. Their blind, macho Bravado is unnerving at best.
Their "blind macho Bravado" is what lets them ride atop
the worlds largest firework in order to go to work.
Quit your sniveling, no one is gonna make YOU ride one.
We can flush billions of dollars down the welfare sinkhole and in third world cesspools but we can't build decent spacecraft for our astronauts? Where the hell are our priorities?
Sniveling?? Far from it. I just don't think other, more effective and safer means of exploration should be shortchanged, or even ignored, for the sake of this venture. >p?BTW, I know they won't make me ride it but they sure as hell will make us all pay for what is continually being shown to be an expensive boondoggle. Too bad these resources weren't used for more beneficial purposes.
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