No, dear. Some of us have a life other than FR. It is particularly amusing that you counted the number of hours between the time you posted and the time I posted.
You already agreed with me in the case of releigion.(sp)
Indeed. The freedom to practice religion in any way we see fit is protected by the constitution. In other words, you cannot reasonably compare the hiring practices of a religious group to the hiring practices of elected officials.
However, you don't think that same exception should apply to politics.
Nope, I don't, because Senators, et al, are public employees. Therefore, their hiring practices are not covered by the constitutional freedom of religion clause.
Should the ACLU not be able to ask my political beliefs?
Sorry, but to try to compare private organizations to elected officials is silly. The ACLU is a private organization - of course they can ask you.
Not being allowed to determine who it is that you are hiring when hiring a person who opposes your beliefs and would be detrimental to your advocacy is wrong.
If the Senator asked the guy in writing if he was gay, and he answered in writing that he was not, then yes, he can be fired - for lying on his application. However, that is not the case. The subject wasn't brought up, and the individual was attempting to be discrete. He did not 'out' himself - he was forcibly 'outted'.
You assume that everyone has a right to any and every job they want.
Please copy and paste where I ever said that.
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Oh good grief, Charlie Brown. We traded shots and I noted that in my post. Get over it.
You already agreed with me in the case of releigion.
(sp)
I should have known that I was dealing with the anal retentive spelling police too. It's a freaking typo. You get no points for finding it.
Indeed. The freedom to practice religion in any way we see fit is protected by the constitution.
Wrong. Our freedoms are neither granted nor protected by the Constitution. There are simply reminders in the document of some of our rights and a notation that we retain all others even if not mentioned. When was the last time you or any one else held up that document in the face of a government bureaucrat or judge and they said, "Ooops. You caught me. I'm sorry."
No dear, the Constitution doesn't protect us. We have the responsibility of enforcing the rules laid down by the Constitution on those who would ignore them and try to usurp our rights. Your perception is quite backward.
In other words, you cannot reasonably compare the hiring practices of a religious group to the hiring practices of elected officials.
Considering that the first part of your premise is wrong, why not?
Nope, I don't, because Senators, et al, are public employees. Therefore, their hiring practices are not covered by the constitutional freedom of religion clause.
Gee, whatever happened to freedom of association?
Sorry, but to try to compare private organizations to elected officials is silly. The ACLU is a private organization - of course they can ask you.
Oh really? I thought that asking those types of questions were illegal in all cases? Discrimination and all, doncha (that's slang, not a typo or misspelling) know? Aren't they subject to the same laws as every else?
If the Senator asked the guy in writing if he was gay, and he answered in writing that he was not, then yes, he can be fired - for lying on his application. However, that is not the case. The subject wasn't brought up, and the individual was attempting to be discrete. He did not 'out' himself - he was forcibly 'outted'.
Did you miss my point or are you just ignoring it? I know that you can fire someone for lying on an application. I also know that the law prohibits employers from asking about a lot of things. My premise is that the law is wrong, expecially when applied to advocacy. Whether it is a church, a private group, or a senator there is an advocacy of beliefs and all of these groups should not be bound by laws governing employment. Are you old enough to have ever been free or to appreciate that freedom?
Please copy and paste where I ever said that. :::::crickets:::::
You have to be able to read between the lines. Believe me, it's in there.