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The last two paragraphs go a long way in explaining where this investigation is heading, IMHO.
1 posted on 07/16/2005 8:53:47 AM PDT by MamaLucci
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You may be right and what is especially important is that Kelly has been GIVEN this clue, I doubt it feel from heaven. What if someone pointed him in the right direction. Could be that CIA people may be in for some big trouble and Wilson's wife goes down in Plames.


28 posted on 07/16/2005 9:50:50 AM PDT by q_an_a
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OK, what am I missing:

"The law defines a "covert agent" as someone working undercover overseas, or who has done so in the last five years. Ms. Plame had operated under non-official cover, but was outed by CIA traitor Aldrich Ames, and has been manning a desk at CIA headquarters since 1997."

The story broke in 2003. 1997 + 5 = 2002. "Covert" means many things, but for the purpose of a defense to prosecution, for this law, she wasn't overseas and hadn't been for 5 years. So there was no crime. It's too simple, this is why I got a "B" in Biz Law, I suppose.

The CIA is riddled with lefties, and always will be, IMHO.


33 posted on 07/16/2005 10:00:58 AM PDT by Felis_irritable
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This is an excellent post! I was surprised to see it was in The Toledo Blade. I know one of the editors there, and he is very liberal and not someone I have any respect for!


37 posted on 07/16/2005 2:31:14 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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This is really good.

Does FR have to excerpt this?


40 posted on 07/17/2005 8:43:35 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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Could minor Ambassador Joe Wilson himself have been the source in blowing his own Wife's cover?

It is distinctly possible, (though it may be unlikely that Joe Wilson himself directly was NY Times Judith Miller's source), since Joe Wilson himself evidently routinely bragged openly to strangers about her CIA employment, prior to such "cover" being "blown" in the press.

Here's an example of Joe's apparently routine and open bragging about Valerie being a "CIA agent," which became known directly to me over a year ago:

He certainly bragged about it per a famous and highly reliable source's (named below) account of his own face-to-face encounter with Amb. Joe Wilson prior to Valerie Plame's "outing" as a CIA agent/employee.

Based upon a personal conversation (we were in a small group eating; it was NOT an "off the record") I had with eminent historian Victor Davis Hanson (we were at a luncheon table together during a trip to Europe), it appeared entirely possible that Joe Wilson himself was the (or one source, if not the original one) possible source in revealing his own wife's status as a CIA agent or employee.

Victor Davis Hanson (Wilson presumably knew Victor Davis Hanson wrote regularly for NRO (National Review Online), had done OpEds for the Wall street Journal, and other publications, and had his own Website with a widespread following) said he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were both in the same "Green Room" before a televised debate-discussion on Iraq, etc. and Joe first warned the TV make-up person not to get powder on his $14,000 Rolex watch, then he bragged to Victor about several things (possessions and trips to Aspen, etc.), like his expensive car (I think it was a Mercedes), and then bragged about his beautiful wife who, Joe Wilson said (braggingly) was a CIA operative.

I asked Victor Davis Hanson Why he didn't write up this account.(?) He replied that Joe Wilson would probably simply deny it, since only he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were in the Green Room together before the broadcast.

However, it is now easy to surmise that Joe Wilson is a crass, materialistic, self-promoting, vain, egotistical, bragaddocio-opportunist, so this account is perfectly consistent with Valerie Plame's TWO photo shoots in Vanity Fair. (Or was it Vogue? No, probably too crass for Vogue, n'est pas?)


68 posted on 07/17/2005 3:49:49 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Gonzales appears to be quite WEAK on Property rights!)
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