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To: avg_freeper

""And you're right I have lost a good deal of confidence in Republicans in general. I'm starting to agree with Farah, "What's left to conserve?""

Do you realise that the GOP is more conservative than it has been at anytime since 1932?

-Ronald Reagan raised taxes to support Social Security

-Barry Goldwater opposed the 1964 tax cuts and in fact opposed all tax cuts until 1981.

-Gerald Ford supported the ERA, abortion and gun control

-Nixon, well the most liberal president since FDR

-Not one single member of the congressional GOP has voted for a tax increase since 1990.

-Finally the GOP is a party not a movement, unlike conservatism and the GOP only got 51`% of the vote in 2004 for President



What has happen to some conservatives is that they have won so many elections since 1980 (aside from GHW Bush, other conservatives did well in 1992), combined with the ability of these conservatives to communicate better with each other via internet etc, has coused them to lose their pragmatism and to demand absolute idealogical purity. so much so that I have heeard people on here claim they wont vote GOP ever again because Bolton hasnt ben confirmed or that the GOP didnt go nuclear on Bolton. These are not people who are capable of governing and keeping conservatism a growing movement


88 posted on 07/16/2005 9:40:20 AM PDT by atlanta67
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To: atlanta67
"Do you realise that the GOP is more conservative than it has been at anytime since 1932?"

Nice job leaving off Coolidge there. Our last conservative President.

94 posted on 07/16/2005 9:46:26 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: atlanta67

:D


101 posted on 07/16/2005 9:52:17 AM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: atlanta67

Nobody is demanding absolute ideological purity (except the Democrats). We just want people who can be depended on to follow the law - and not their personal preferences - as is the definition of the job.


102 posted on 07/16/2005 9:52:43 AM PDT by thoughtomator (For all you love to survive, Islam must be destroyed.)
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To: atlanta67
Not one single member of the congressional GOP has voted for a tax increase since 1990.
You wouldn't call new entitlements a tax increase?
135 posted on 07/16/2005 10:15:22 AM PDT by lewislynn ( Is calling for energy independence a "protectionist" act?)
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To: atlanta67

When did the Republicans gain both the House and the Senate?

With whose votes? Betray those voters and that will end that majority quite quickly in 06, and I don't even want to think about 08 through 16.

51% is GREAT considering we suffered through Clinton and his vote share.

Pretty good points on the Presidents.


140 posted on 07/16/2005 10:18:19 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: atlanta67

On the other hand Clintons have been the biggest disaster for the democratic party, ever, loosing everything since 1994!!!


215 posted on 07/16/2005 11:23:43 AM PDT by danamco
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