[tsomer]

I don't consider hypnosis a spell. No one is involuntarily hypnotized; this is why the indoctrination is gradual. Further, the hypnosis has to be reinforced; I suspect this is the purpose for the muslim's frequent calls to prayer.

Secondly, we know nothing about morality without God. Those under the sway of a false deity are, from their subjective vantage, acting morally. Someone once offered the illustration that a cannibal will feel guilt for not eating the missionary.

I don't see how these people can know God until the perimeter of delusion they've created for themselves is broken.

[JasonC]

Cannibals emphatically do not think they are acting morally. They are getting their rocks off over the fact that they don't have to and they know it. Subjective vantages have nothing to do with it, either - morality is not an opinion. Nor is it first created by religion - on the contrary, religion presupposes the direct perceptibility and knowability of moral goodness. Or is there a man among you who when his son asks for bread, would give him a stone?