[TMSuchman]

I have heard that these type of talks have been on going for a long time. The problem was how were they going to get the American people to go along with this. We have a long history of fighting this type of junk, we are also very fiercely independent group as a whole. Not to add that we are also armed to the teeth to boot. Am I a member of the Art Bell/tin foil hat club, not really but I do believe that there are forces in our goverment that would like to put us under their iron boot of european style goverments, where the big brother is a all knowing and powerfull,ever present,all consuming part of our lives!

[hedgetrimmer]

In Britain, while many citizens were against the ascension of Britain into the EU, their politicians voted for it anyway. The pols shrewdly did not allow the vote to go to the people.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

...The problem was how were they going to get the American people to go along with this...

It will be for the chilluns or for security or some such drama.

The docs will be sitting there on the shelf, when the right moment presents itself and it will all be voted and signed without the nonmembers having a clue..