Posted on 07/15/2005 1:53:20 PM PDT by golfboy
In Title 50 of the U.S. COde:
Section 426. Definitions.
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(4) The term "covert agent" means -
(a) A present or retired officer or employee of an intelligence agency... -
(i) whose identity as such an officer, employee, or member is classified infomration, and
(ii) who is serving outside the United States or has within the last five years served outside the United States;...
These "lies" are getting full coverage overseas as the proof that Bush went to war knowing there were no WMD.
The Dems do not seem to care if those inside the beltway know it is bull.
Their objectives may lie elsewhere.
He is obviously disoriented from the spin!
According to the orginal op-ed piece he did .. Wilson said he was told by the CIA ... aka his wife
http://foi.missouri.edu/terrorintelligence/whatididnt.html
In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney's office had questions about a particular intelligence report. While I never saw the report, I was told that it referred to a memorandum of agreement that documented the sale of uranium yellowcake — a form of lightly processed ore — by Niger to Iraq in the late 1990's. The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president's office.
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BTW ... Wilson apparently also said this
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/993121/posts
"Neo-conservatives and religious conservatives have hijacked this administration, and I consider myself on a personal mission to destroy both." Those are the words of Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who will certainly be a household name for weeks to come
A Letter from Ambassador Joe Wilson (Barf Warning)
Email (John Kerry) | Joe Wilson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1014065/posts
(snip)
Dear Friend,
In February 2002, George W. Bush's Administration sent me to Africa to investigate claims that Saddam Hussein was seeking to buy materials for weapons of mass destruction. In early March, I provided a detailed briefing to the C.I.A; I concluded that Iraq had most likely not tried to buy uranium in Niger. We know the rest of the story
Pretty hard to rate dumb.Three stooges dumb,Billy Carter dumb,doorknob dumb-there are so many levels of dumb!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1173835/posts
(snip)
Not so, according to the Senate committee's report on pre-Iraq war intelligence. Not so at all.
The first public mention of Joe Wilson's February 2002 mission to Niger appeared in a May 6, 2003, column by Nicholas D. Kristof in the New York Times. Shortly before, Wilson had met Kristof at a Senate Democratic Policy Committee conference in the capital. As Wilson later recounted to Vanity Fair, he told Kristof about his trip to Niger over breakfast the next morning, and said "Kristof could write about it, but not name him."
Kristof, the first of Wilson's many journalistic victims, accepted Wilson's claims at face value. "I do know from talking to people directly involved in the Niger deal that information did go to the vice president's office and did go to the national security staff in the White House and went to the top of the CIA," he told an NPR interviewer on June 25, 2003.
But read the various claims made in Kristof's May 6 column side by side with the Senate Intelligence Committee's findings, and you find two different stories. Here's Kristof: "In February 2002, according to someone present at the meetings, that envoy reported to the CIA and State Department that the information [of a Niger-Iraq uranium deal] was unequivocally wrong and that the documents [purporting to show such a deal] had been forged."
Wilson did report back to the CIA after he returned from Niger. And Wilson did say he was skeptical about claims of an Iraq-Niger uranium deal. But according to the committee's findings, Wilson did not report, by any reckoning, that the information was "unequivocally wrong" or that documents "had been forged" to show a deal. Indeed, he couldn't have.
That's because the bogus documents in question were not turned over to CIA personnel until October 16, 2002, about eight months after Wilson had returned from Niger. Also, according to the Senate Intelligence Committee, at Wilson's initial February 19, 2002, meeting in CIA headquarters, "none of the meeting participants recall telling the former ambassador the source of the report."
This is how Pat Roberts, the committee's chairman, put it in his "additional views" section of the report:
At the time the former ambassador traveled to Niger, the Intelligence Community did not have in its possession any actual documents on the alleged Niger-Iraq uranium deal, only second hand reporting of the deal. The former ambassador's comments to reporters . . . could not have been based on the former ambassador's actual experiences because the Intelligence Community did not have the documents at the time of the ambassador's trip.
The Senate Committee asked Wilson how he could have come to such grandiose conclusions without any information:
On at least two occasions [Wilson] admitted that he had no direct knowledge to support some of his claims and that he was drawing on either unrelated past experiences or no information at all. For example, when asked how he "knew" that the Intelligence Community had rejected the possibility of a Niger-Iraq uranium deal, as he wrote in his book, he told Committee staff that his assertion may have involved "a little literary flair."
"A little literary flair" is a good way to describe the following claim, also in the original Kristof column: "The envoy's debunking of the forgery was passed around the administration and seemed to be accepted--except that President Bush and the State Department kept citing it [the forgery] anyway."
The Select Committee discovered otherwise:
DIA and CIA analysts said that when they saw the intelligence report they did not believe that it supplied much new information and did not think that it clarified the story on the alleged Iraq-Niger uranium deal. They did not find Nigerien denials that they had discussed uranium sales with Iraq as very surprising because they had no expectation that Niger would admit to such an agreement if it did exist. The analysts did, however, find it interesting that the former Nigerien Prime Minister said [to Wilson] an Iraqi delegation had visited Niger [in 1999] for what [the prime minister] believed was to discuss uranium sales.
Because CIA analysts did not believe that the report added any new information to clarify the issue, they did not use the report to produce any further analytical products or highlight the report for policymakers. For the same reason, CIA's briefer did not brief the Vice President on the report, despite the Vice President's previous questions about the issue.
The story Wilson told Nicholas Kristof that May morning in Washington? Wilson made it up.
And he got away with it. And he began to talk more frequently with reporters. The Washington Post's Walter Pincus, for one. Here is an excerpt from a Pincus article published on June 12, 2003:
During his trip, the CIA's envoy spoke with the president of Niger and other Niger officials mentioned as being involved in the Iraqi effort, some of whose signatures purportedly appeared on the documents.
After returning to the United States, the envoy reported to the CIA that the uranium-purchase story was false, the sources said. Among the envoy's conclusions was that the documents may have been forged because the "dates were wrong and the names were wrong," the former U.S. government official said.
During the Senate Intelligence Committee's investigation, someone asked Wilson how he could have told Pincus the "dates were wrong and the names were wrong," as he never saw the forgeries in the first place. Wilson was nonplussed. According to the report, "The former ambassador said that he may have 'misspoken' to the reporter when he said he concluded the documents were 'forged.'" Also, he said, "he may have become confused about his own recollection after the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) reported in March 2003 that the names and dates on the documents were not correct and may have thought he had seen the names himself."
Let me ask you this:
Have you read anything on here in the last few days about one of Plame's coworkers at Langley being on TV, talking about her not trying to hide herself?
here it is
Rove fight escalates
The Washington Times ^ | July 15, 2005 | Stephen Dinan and Joseph Curl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1443530/posts
(snip)
A former CIA covert agent who supervised Mrs. Plame early in her career yesterday took issue with her identification as an "undercover agent," saying that she worked for more than five years at the agency's headquarters in Langley and that most of her neighbors and friends knew that she was a CIA employee. "She made no bones about the fact that she was an agency employee and her husband was a diplomat," Fred Rustmann, a covert agent from 1966 to 1990, told The Washington Times. "Her neighbors knew this, her friends knew this, his friends knew this.
I'm looking at all my bookmarks and found this
Goof Grief .. I had forgot just how all over the place Wilson was
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991629/posts
Wilson has accused top Bush political strategist Karl Rove of leaking the name to columnist Robert Novak, telling a Seattle audience last month that he wanted "to see whether or not we can get Karl Rove frog-marched out of the White House in handcuffs."
But he told ABC's "Good Morning America" on Monday that he got "carried away" and made up the Rove allegation out of thin air
Wilson uses CIA flap with eye on '04 (He's A Democrat Now)
Washington Times ^ | 10/06/03 | Audrey Hudson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/995953/posts
Former diplomat Joseph C. Wilson IV, who says his wife's status as a CIA employee was leaked by the administration, yesterday said he will use his "15 minutes of notoriety" to campaign against President Bush.
He is lying.
I am beginning to think that they knew Novak and Cooper had talked to Rove.
I was reding some of my old posts .. a number of them I commented that this was a set up
And now this whole this is much bigger and will blow up in their faces Big Time
So he IS on a personal mission to destroy the administration, by his own words. And he won't hesitate to lie in order to succeed.
As dumb as they come! hehehe! This guy is so obviously desparate to cover his butt and try and destroy Karl Rove and by proxy the President that it's embarrassing! What a dope! Is this the best they've got? Hahaha!!!
In a book that Wilson wrote.....he cites how Plame was moved back to the country in the mid 90s.
Meaning she was not covert even the year before Novak wrote the piece.
ALSO, her supervisor at the CIA has been out saying that she was NOT covert.
She had made public briefing for the CIA and given her name.
AND...Her neighbors and pals also knew that she worked for the CIA.....because she told them.
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