Posted on 07/15/2005 11:23:23 AM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
How goes the battle for hearts and minds in the war on terrorism? A survey released yesterday by the Pew Global Attitudes Project, including polls conducted in six predominantly Muslim countries, offers some clues. (Note that all components of the survey were taken before the London bombings.)
Osama bin Laden, it turns out, has a bit of a PR problem in the Muslim world. Asked how much confidence they had in bin Laden "to do the right thing regarding world affairs," the percentage of respondents answering "a lot of confidence" dropped, since May 2003, from 38 to 25 in Jordan, from 37 to 14 in Morocco, from 19 to 8 in Indonesia, and from 4 to less than 1 in Lebanon. In some countries, outright anti-Ladenist sentiment has also grown; the percentage of respondents answering "no confidence" jumped from 29 to 40 in Morocco, from 67 to 73 in Turkey, and from 64 to 78 in Lebanon.
Support, among Muslims, for suicide bombing against civilians has also faded. (Only Muslims were asked this question.) The percentage saying the practice is "never justified" jumped since March 2004 from 35 to 46 in Pakistan and from 38 to 79 in Morocco, and jumped since the summer of 2002 (the last time the question was asked in these countries) from 54 to 66 in Indonesia and from 12 to 33 in Lebanon. (The Turks held stable on the issue, with 66% saying suicide bombing is "never justified," statistically identical to the 67% who gave that answer in March 2004.) Most interestingly, opposition to suicide bombings in Iraq specifically was higher, in several countries, than opposition to suicide bombing in general; 56% of Pakistanis and 41% of Lebanese oppose that "insurgent" tactic, along with 43% in Jordan, where only 11% oppose suicide bombing in general (and by "general," obviously, they mean "Israel").
Concern over the threat of Islamic extremism is widespread in several of these countries, with the percentage deeming the threat "very great" or "fairly great" at 47 in Turkey, 53 in Pakistan, 73 in Morocco, and 45 in Indonesia. Interestingly enough, respondents in different countries define "Islamic extremism" differently. In Lebanon, Jordan, and Morocco, the prevailing view is that Islamic extremism means "Using violence to get rid of non-Muslim influences in our country." But to pluralities in Turkey and Indonesia, it means "advocating the legal imposition of strict Shari'ah on all Muslims." The respondents in those two democracies, it seems, are less worried about their Muslim extremists killing people than they are about their getting elected -- another point in democracy's favor, I'd say.
It isn't all good news; in Pakistan, bin Laden's popularity has actually grown; 51% of Pakistanis express "some" or "a lot of" confidence in bin Laden. And bin Laden's support is slightly broader, if less intense, in Jordan, where the percentage expressing "some confidence" in bin Laden grew faster than the percentage expressing "a lot of confidence" dropped. The popularity of suicide bombing has also grown in Jordan, and the 79% of Moroccans who said suicide bombing was "never justified" shrunk to 40% when Iraq was brought up. Anti-Semitism remains endemic in the Muslim world, where the number holding a "very unfavorable" opinion of Jews reaches 99% in both Jordan and Lebanon; Turkey, where 60% hold an unfavorable opinion toward Jews (44% "very unfavorable"), is among these countries the philo-Semitic standout.
But the trends are headed in the right direction. Fighting terrorism in Afghanistan and Iraq does not seem to have massively radicalized the Muslim world; if anything the opposite is happening. Another defeat for defeatism.
John Tabin is a frequent online contributor to The American Spectator.
http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?ReportID=248
Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and tried to light it?
Did you know his trial is over?
Did you know he was sentenced?
Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV/Radio?
Didn't think so.
Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.
Ruling by Judge William Young, US District Court:
Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had anything to say.
His response: After admitting his guilt to the court for the record,
Reid also admitted his "allegiance to Osama bin Laden, to Islam, and to the religion of Allah," defiantly stated "I think I will not apologize for my actions," and told the court "I am at war with your country."
Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below:
January 30, 2003, United States vs. Reid. Judge Young:
"Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon you.
On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in the custody of the United States Attorney General. On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutive with the other.
That's 80 years. On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years consecutive to the 80 years just imposed. The Court imposes upon you each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 for the aggregate fine of $2 million. The Court accepts the government's recommendation with respect to restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines. The Court imposes upon you the $800 special assessment.
The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply because the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life sentences so I need go no further This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes. It is a fair and just sentence. It is a righteous sentence.
Let me explain this to you. We are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid. We are Americans. We have been through the fire before. There is all too much war talk here and I say that to everyone with the utmost respect Here in this court, we deal with individuals as individuals and care for individuals as individuals. As human beings, we reach out for justice.
You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that reference, to call you a soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether it is the officers of government who do it or your attorney who does it, or if you think you are a soldier. You are not----- you are a terrorist. And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not meet with terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice.
So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I've know warriors. You are a terrorist. A species of criminal that is guilty of multiple attempted murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it right when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the press and where the TV crews were, and he said: "You're no big deal."
You are no big deal.
What your able counsel and what the equally able United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific. What was it that led you here to this courtroom today?
I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing. And I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you, but as I search this entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I know.
It seems to me you hate the one thing that to us is most precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose. Here, in this society, the very wind carries freedom. It carries it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom. So that everyone can see, truly see, that justice is administered fairly, individually, and discretely. It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your behalf and have filed appeals, will go on in their representation of you before other judges.
We Americans are all about freedom. Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties. Make no mistake though. It is yet true that we will bare any burden; pay any price, to preserve our freedoms. Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not going to long remember what you or I say here. Day after tomorrow, it will be forgotten, but this, however, will long endure. Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across America, the American people will gather to see that justice, individual justice, justice, not war, individual justice is in fact being done. The very President of the United States through his officers will have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters can be judged and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice
See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of America. That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands for freedom. And it always will.
Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him down.
So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV sets?
We need more judges like Judge Young, but that's another subject. Pass this around. Everyone should and needs to hear what this fine judge had to say.
Powerful words that strike home.
God bless America.
Great post!!!
I had heard nothing of this.
There is no surprise why the Old Media would not cover this ...
The numbers from Pakistan are a bit worrisome for us though, and explain why Musharraf must walk a fine line between cooperation with the U.S., and not angering his very large mooslim population, otherwise he will lose power, and we would have to deal with a 100% mooslim imam/puppet. We're much better off working with Musharraf as he is able to.
Clinton kept his numbers up also. Criminals favored by liberals, even mass murderers, have their hard core believers.
All those numbers are great, but where's the outrage on the infamous Muslim street? Until the Muslim world speaks up and starts policing its own, these numbers don't mean diddly squat.
I found the transcript on CNN.com, amazingly enough.
This should get massive, saturation coverage in the media. Well, it would if the opposite conclusion could be made.
Right you are. It would be shades of Ron Brown ...
There was a special on History Channel the other night, brand new, called "History Now" "The War on Al Quaeda" (brand new, because it included a segment at the end showing investigators combing the wreckage after the recent London bombings).
It was a riveting and well put together account, an excellent history from 9/11 thru Afghanistan and Iraq, and included a segment about Musharaff and the fence he walks there, as we discussed. Catch it if you can. I highly recommend it. I did a search, and it appears that it replays again on Tues, 7/19 in the morning (time varies depending on your time zone). I believe it is the same program, though not 100% sure.
"So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I've know warriors. You are a terrorist. A species of criminal that is guilty of multiple attempted murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it right when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the press and where the TV crews were, and he said: "You're no big deal."
(I repeated it here to remind myself where to read it again the next time I feel that the Democrat Senators and Congressmen of our nation (and some Republicans too) backed by the Liberal MSM, takes this country's law knowing, honoring and abiding citizens to task in patronization and sympathy for the enemy.
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