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Rove Reportedly Held Phone Talk on C.I.A. Officer
NY Times ^ | July, 15, 2005 | DAVID JOHNSTON

Posted on 07/14/2005 8:27:58 PM PDT by freedrudge

Rove Reportedly Held Phone Talk on C.I.A. Officer

WASHINGTON, July 14 - Karl Rove, the White House senior adviser, spoke with the columnist Robert D. Novak as he was preparing an article in July 2003 that identified a C.I.A. officer who was undercover, someone who has been officially briefed on the matter said Thursday. Skip to next paragraph Multimedia Graphic The White House on the Leak Related White House Quotes on the C.I.A. Leak Case (July 11, 2005) At Leak Inquiry's Center, a Circumspect Columnist (Dec. 31, 2004)

Wilson: What I Didn't Find in Africa (July 6, 2003)

Mr. Rove has told investigators that he learned from the columnist the name of the C.I.A. officer, who was referred to by her maiden name, Valerie Plame, and the circumstances in which her husband, former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, traveled to Africa to investigate possible uranium sales to Iraq, the person said.

After hearing Mr. Novak's account, the person who has been briefed on the matter said, Mr. Rove told the columnist: "I heard that, too."

The previously undisclosed telephone conversation, which took place on July 8, 2003, was initiated by Mr. Novak, the person who has been briefed on the matter said.

Six days later, Mr. Novak's syndicated column reported that two senior administration officials had told him that Mr. Wilson's "wife had suggested sending him" to Africa. That column was the first instance in which Ms. Wilson was publicly identified as a C.I.A. operative. The column provoked angry demands for an investigation into who disclosed Ms. Wilson's name to Mr. Novak.

The Justice Department appointed Patrick J. Fitzgerald, a top federal prosecutor in Chicago, to lead the inquiry. Mr. Rove said in an interview last year that he did not know the C.I.A. officer's name and did no

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To: freedrudge
 

 

 
This article in the Times is hilarious.  They start with the supposition that the article proves that Karl Rove is guilty, yet throughout the article they essentially prove that Karl not only did nothing illegal, but not even anything unethical.

 

 

101 posted on 07/14/2005 9:02:22 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results is the definition of insanity.)
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To: Steely Tom
Was this briefing conducted at double secret cosmic background level beta-sub-3?

I don't know, but I think it was with Those We Do Not Speak Of.

-PJ

102 posted on 07/14/2005 9:02:31 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Shermy

CIA in Who's Who?


103 posted on 07/14/2005 9:02:49 PM PDT by skr (Almighty God, thank you for the liberty you have bestowed upon this nation.)
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To: spyone
I'm sure that Novak was numero uno in the subpoena dept.

In case you didn't know, Grand Juries are secret.

104 posted on 07/14/2005 9:03:14 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: freedrudge

What is the date of that picture? His tie doesn't match the pic from today, is it an older one? Because it sure fits with this article.


105 posted on 07/14/2005 9:03:20 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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To: CFC__VRWC

And once anyone points out to them that Novak is, and has been, a lifelong Democrat they'll slander him like they do Zell Miller and anyone else that doesn't tow the DNC far left line.

Which is what is so phoney about them. At the same time they purge their party of anyone with a brain, they stand behind the Clintons and their "third way" and "middle road", etc. as they dwindle to oblivion.

I love the Clintons. I say we are strong enough to fight a war on terror, build the economy, stop illegal immigration (Hillary beats her chest on this sometimes) and live through four or eight years of Hillary. Given their track record, by the time her scandal-ridden reign is over Democrats will be trinkets you can buy next to the nail clippers while checking out at K-Mart.


106 posted on 07/14/2005 9:03:33 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Right now I can't decide which political party is trying to commit suicide faster.)
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To: Shermy
Oh, I agree with you, but you're applying logic. That can't be fair.

;-)

107 posted on 07/14/2005 9:03:40 PM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: Pukin Dog


108 posted on 07/14/2005 9:03:48 PM PDT by bitt ('We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.' Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: Raycpa

Well done!


109 posted on 07/14/2005 9:03:57 PM PDT by JennysCool (Be good, and you will be lonesome. - Mark Twain)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Karl Rove, the White House senior adviser, spoke with the columnist Robert D. Novak as he was preparing an article in July 2003 that identified a C.I.A. officer who was undercover, someone who has been officially briefed on the matter said Thursday

This is actually horrible writing. Read this carefully. The NYT is claiming the person who was officially briefed on this is conceding the C.I.A. officer (Plame)was undercover. I doubt that.
110 posted on 07/14/2005 9:04:01 PM PDT by jimboster (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me)
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To: spyone
Can anyone explain to me why Novak hasn't been supeoned?

Targets are not called.

111 posted on 07/14/2005 9:05:38 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: freedrudge
Don't you just love the way that the author of the article, Mr. Johnston, alternates between delivering a narrative of factual information that clearly appears to exonerate Rove of any wrongdoing, and then delivering Democrat-inspired commentary that appears to deliberately ignore the facts that were just placed on the table and instead states that the revelations portend a rough road ahead for Karl Rove and President Bush?

It is almost as if two different hands were typing the article (for argument's sake, let's call them "the good hand" and "the bad hand") - the good hand is sticking to assertions of fact that can be proven or disproven, but the facts on the table seem to be in agreement with the essence of Mr. Rove's known explanation as well as with Mr. Novak's explanation. Yet, right out of a Jekyll/Hyde tale, the bad hand intrudes with its non-sequitur anti-Rove, anti-Bush commentary. So, is Mr. Johnston a schizo, or was he compelled by evil editor-drones to adhere to the Times' anti-Bush political bias litmus test despite the pesky facts getting in the way of the desired rhetorical direction?

112 posted on 07/14/2005 9:06:07 PM PDT by Zeppo
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To: Dems_R_Losers

"So when does the investigation start on who leaked grand jury testimony to the New York Times????"


You took the words right out of my mouth. It's incredible ain't it?


113 posted on 07/14/2005 9:06:18 PM PDT by james500
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To: Dems_R_Losers

If Tenet was the leaker and Plame was not covert, this investigation has been a total waste of time and money unless Joe Wilson gets frog-marched out of his wife's CIA office in Langley.


114 posted on 07/14/2005 9:06:20 PM PDT by hansel
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To: Pukin Dog

Of course Miller talks to Plame, that's obviously why she never wrote the story herself. Plame was her key CIA source on all of her WMD stories. She would have to tell it all to the grand jury. That's ceratinly worth going to jail for. But I just don't think she would have told Bob Novak. I do think she would have told Matt Cooper. I also think Joe Wilson himself might have blabbed about his wife within earshot of some journos at a cocktail party, maybe without even realizing it. Wouldn't that be rich?


115 posted on 07/14/2005 9:06:59 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (If the WMD intelligence was so bad, why does Valerie Plame still have a job?)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

I doubt Tenet was even in the loop.

One thing I'm clear about in all this ridiculous beltway crap: no administration runs the goverment. The bureaucrats do.

I saw some idiot, probably Mort Kondrake, on TV saying, "well, Bush didn't want another fight with the CIA".

What? I don't know about you, but if I was the president I wouldn't need to fight with any executive branch agency. I'd tell them what to do and if they didn't I'd fire them. Screw everyone else. And I wouldn't waste my time with the appointed short-term folks. I'd fire the career a-holes and even the janitors if I had to.

Let them sue me. I'll take through Congress all the way to the Supreme Court.


116 posted on 07/14/2005 9:07:30 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Right now I can't decide which political party is trying to commit suicide faster.)
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To: Shermy
Rather than a selective leak it indicates reporters told Rove first

Makes me wonder if the two reporters set Rove up. One slips information to him while the other extracts what might be illegal information from him. Interesting scam.

117 posted on 07/14/2005 9:07:47 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: freedrudge
who could possibly be "thoroughly" briefed on the matter ?
Tenet ?
118 posted on 07/14/2005 9:07:57 PM PDT by stylin19a (Suicide bomber ??? "I came to the wrong jihad")
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To: Zeppo

Just think, these people (NYT) get paid for this kind of writing.


119 posted on 07/14/2005 9:08:12 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: freedrudge

BTW--Novak's having a great month, huh? Turns out this whole thing is probably perpetuated by him in order to keep himself in the headlines, and then on top of it he says Rhenquist will resign last Friday at 5PM.


120 posted on 07/14/2005 9:09:52 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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