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UK: Far right and football gangs plot 'revenge'
Guardian ^ | 07/15/05 | Hugh Muir

Posted on 07/14/2005 5:42:58 PM PDT by Pikamax

Far right and football gangs plot 'revenge'

Police monitor anti-Muslim websites Hugh Muir Friday July 15, 2005

Guardian Plans by an alliance of rightwing extremists and football hooligans to exact "revenge" on Muslims after last week's bomb attacks are being monitored by police.

The Guardian has learned that extremists are keen to cause widespread fear and injury with attacks on mosques and high-profile "anti-Muslim" events in the capital.

Football hooligans communicating over the internet have spoken of the need to put aside partisan support for teams and unite against Muslims. Hooligans from West Ham, Millwall, Crystal Palace and Arsenal are among those seeking to establish common cause.

As part of wider plans to generate a backlash, rightwing groups such as the Nationalist Alliance and the National Front are said to be planning marches. Extremists hope to hold a march along Victoria Embankment in London tomorrow.

It is also known that many mosques have received bomb threats since the attacks.

Attempts by the right to make capital out of the tragedy have created a powderkeg. Already extremist Islamist websites have told Muslims to be ready to retaliate.

The BNP has sought to capitalise on the atrocities by reproducing a picture of the bombed No 30 bus with the headline "Maybe Now It's Time To Listen To The BNP" in its byelection literature in Barking, Essex.

The tactic prompted cross-party condemnation. Though it was designed to increase support for the far-right, many believe the message may have been too crass and too badly timed to work. The party does, however, enjoy some support in the area.

Gerry Gable, of the anti-fascist organisation Searchlight, said: "There is no doubt that the far-right are playing this for all they think it is worth. If you look at the BNP website there's Nick Griffin saying 'be calm' and other material saying 'don't get angry, get even!'"

He added: "These things should be taken seriously. One site, Blood and Honour, had a posting about a mosque in the Wirral and soon after the mosque was hit. Soon after, the posting was taken down."

The police have pledged to crack down on any attempts to provoke division in the aftermath of the bombs. Members of Scotland Yard's independent advisory group have been asked to liaise with borough commanders in the capital to reassure the public and make sure the police carry out their pledges. The Met has said from the outset that the bombs were an attack on all communities and that none should be scapegoated.

The synergy between rightwing extremists and football hooligans is not new. Throughout the 1980s, some of the biggest clubs in Britain were plagued by notoriously violent and racist followers.

Though virtually all clubs have since challenged the behaviour of extremist fans, and almost all now belong to the Kick Racism Out of Football initiative, violent followers continue to communicate with each other and supporters from other clubs to engineer confrontations.

The prospect of the opening day Championship fixture between Leeds and Millwall in August is already causing concern.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: koranimals; londonattacked; paybackisabitch; soccer
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To: AmishDude

Thast what I was thinking too..You dont want to f^ck with Brit football fans ..Thats for sure..


161 posted on 07/15/2005 12:23:52 AM PDT by hineybona
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To: commonasdirt

WE will only be jailed if liberal vermin complete their takeover of America and the tolerant sob's put conservatives and christians in thier concentration camps run by Muslim guards. However, before that day comes the people will destoy both liberlism and the muslim invaders. Too bad the subs can no longer launch missles on thier own accord. Nevertheless, patriots will prevail in this 2 front war. Liberal sympathizers at home, muslim invaders on the doorstep.


162 posted on 07/15/2005 12:26:02 AM PDT by mysonsfuture
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To: mysonsfuture

I believe he is pullinga durbin!


163 posted on 07/15/2005 12:27:21 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: commonasdirt; MadIvan

I think there is a dynamic here you are missing. When 9-11 happened, we were attacked by 19 foreigners. They were not American citizens. They were people we let through our borders.

But the four men allegedly (I say allegedly because no names or faces have yet come to my attention, only law enforcement knows who they are talking about) behind the London attack were British citizens.

They attended local mosques. They prayed and coordinated their attacks among fellow citizens. I think, in the minds of some, it makes no sense to seek justice in Afghanistan, Iraq or Saudi Arabia. The perps - and their breeding ground - are right there from their own country. In the minds of thug gangs, it doesn't seem far fetched at all to seek revenge amongst those who nurtured the deed.

And, if I could venture a guess, the Moslems in Britain are probably as unwilling to condemn terrorism in their names as their American counterparts are. No doubt, their silence in the aftermath is deafening.

While nobody of level mind is advocating random attacks on Arabs for their religion or their skin color, it could also be argued that the mosque you bomb today could thwart the terrorist attack planned against you for tomorrow.

(Ivan, you are pinged for your thoughts)


164 posted on 07/15/2005 12:30:51 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (Visit Club Gitmo - The World's Only Air-Conditioned Gulag.)
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To: NRA2BFree
Why is it when people stand up to Muslims they are the ones branded as right wing extremists?

Well in this case it would appear to be true.

Of course that does nothing to invalidate Dietrich Bonhoffer's "...when they came for me..." adage.

165 posted on 07/15/2005 12:31:58 AM PDT by papertyger (Power concedes nothing without a demand. – Frederick Douglass)
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To: commonasdirt

Osama, is that you?


166 posted on 07/15/2005 12:33:52 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

I am amazed at the number of callers from the u.k. Savage is getting.


167 posted on 07/15/2005 12:37:27 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

what are they saying?


168 posted on 07/15/2005 12:39:21 AM PDT by papertyger (Power concedes nothing without a demand. – Frederick Douglass)
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To: Tall_Texan

"While nobody of level mind is advocating random attacks on Arabs for their religion or their skin color, it could also be argued that the mosque you bomb today could thwart the terrorist attack planned against you for tomorrow."

First half of your statement: Then a great many people of un-level mind are posting to this.
Second half of your statement: Great argument, but don't expect any jury to buy it if you are caught.


169 posted on 07/15/2005 12:49:32 AM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: jimbo123

David Duke, is that you!


170 posted on 07/15/2005 12:50:03 AM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: commonasdirt

Why won't you accept that Islam is a death cult?


171 posted on 07/15/2005 12:52:48 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jayhorn

Call 'em as I see 'em, and most here are not even trying to hide their racism.


172 posted on 07/15/2005 12:53:00 AM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: righttackle44

I was thinking FR needs its own football hooligans


173 posted on 07/15/2005 12:57:24 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: mysonsfuture

It is easy to sit at home and talk of your willingness to fight with your keyboard. I don't see anything in the papers about attacks on mosques here. Of course it could be you know that it would only land you in jail and it would not take a liberal judge and jury, just a regular court and a jury of your peers. Admit that it is just talk on your part and leave it at that.


174 posted on 07/15/2005 12:58:13 AM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: commonasdirt
Call 'em as I see 'em, and most here are not even trying to hide their racism.

How can you be such a buffoon? The chauvanism of the Mohammedens cuts off heads, and you're pissing about racism against an ideology that is not a race!

Do you have no other arrows in your quiver besides boilerplate liberal cliches?

175 posted on 07/15/2005 1:01:32 AM PDT by papertyger (Power concedes nothing without a demand. – Frederick Douglass)
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To: jimbo123
I accept that islamic fanatics use religion to do what they do. I will not say kill all the muslims. So after we get rid of them (muslims), whose next on the list? The Rev Fred Phelps thinks God and the bible have given him all the answers on who deserves to die. Its all in the interpretation
176 posted on 07/15/2005 1:05:31 AM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: Pikamax

I guess some folks don't realize we are at war..


177 posted on 07/15/2005 1:05:55 AM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: papertyger

Hey, alright, kill whomever you like. And then tell it to a judge and jury. Face facts. You may be angry, you may be venting. But you are not about to do it.


178 posted on 07/15/2005 1:07:21 AM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: commonasdirt

England was just attacked from within and the govt did NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!! Let me put it this way-IF Al-Quada does attack America with AMERICAN MUSLIMS and kills up to 4 million citizens, and our govt does NOTHING, then I hope the people take to the streets to save our country. and oh, by the way, in red America the police and sheriffs would join WITH the people, not arrest them for defending thier country. It is you who live in a la-la land of unreality. Where I live, they pray in school with the full consent of the school board, regardless of the Supreme Court's irrational dictates (and we still have not and will not remove the 10 commandments from our court house-it stays because it is protected by the local police and community leaders)No one here will be "arrested" for defending thier homeland and families from attack. Period!


179 posted on 07/15/2005 1:07:29 AM PDT by mysonsfuture
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To: Peter Libra

Are the hooligans neo nazis?

If so, then it is hard to pick a side here except that I know the Islamo terrorists want to kill us all. And maybe the hooligans will overlook me.

The ppoint is, something has to be done or there will be this kind of hooliganism.


180 posted on 07/15/2005 1:07:51 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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