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China ‘ready to use N-weapons against US’
Financial Times ^ | July 14 2005 | Alexandra Harney

Posted on 07/14/2005 2:39:38 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite

China is prepared to use nuclear weapons against the US if it is attacked by Washington during a confrontation over Taiwan, according to a senior Chinese military official.

“If the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition on to the target zone on China's territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons,” Zhu Chenghu, a major general in the People's Liberation Army, said at an official briefing.

Mr Zhu, who is also a professor at China's National Defence University, was speaking at a function for foreign journalists organised, in part, by the Chinese government. He added that China's definition of its territory includes warships and aircraft.

“If the Americans are determined to interfere [then] we will be determined to respond,” Mr Zhu said. “We Chinese will prepare ourselves for the destruction of all of the cities east of Xian. Of course the Americans will have to be prepared that hundreds. . . of cities will be destroyed by the Chinese.” Mr Zhu is a self-acknowledged “hawk” who has warned previously that China could strike the US with long-range missiles. But his threat to use nuclear weapons in a conflict over Taiwan is the most specific by a senior Chinese official in nearly a decade.

Rick Fisher, a former senior US congressional official and an authority on the Chinese military, said the specific nature of the threat “is a new addition to China's public discourse”.

China's official doctrine has called for no first use of nuclear weapons since its first atomic test in 1964. But Mr Zhu is not the first Chinese official to refer to the possibility of using such weapons first in a conflict over Taiwan.

Chas Freeman, a former US assistant secretary of defence, said in 1999 that a PLA official had told him China could respond in kind to a nuclear strike by the US in the event of a conflict with Taiwan.

“In the end you care more about Los Angeles than you do about Taipei,” Mr Freeman quoted this official as saying. The official is believed to have been Xiong Guangkai, now the PLA's deputy chief of general staff.

The rationale for the new threats is unclear. China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs could not be reached for comment.

Mr Zhu, who has risen from the rank of colonel over the past five years, insisted he was expressing his personal views, and that they did not represent the policy of the Chinese government. Nor was he anticipating war between China and the US.

But he said that, because China did not have the capability to fight a conventional war against the US, the threat to escalate might be the only way to stop a war.

His comments could provide insight into the thinking among some in the PLA amid growing anxiety in Washington about its capabilities. Last month, Donald Rumsfeld, defence secretary, voiced concern about China's military build-up.

Additional reporting by Edward Alden in Washington


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chicoms; china; nukes; terrorism
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To: superiorslots

And think about how much more equipment we could buy if our costs to get it were as low as they are in the PRC?


121 posted on 07/14/2005 4:35:06 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Taylor42
"Thank you Bill Clinton..."

NO. Thank you for remembering.

The Freep Folk shouldn't forget...Billy Boy gave away the technology for the missiles that carry those Shanghai nukes.

It's so disheartening to think our very own Pres. did that to us.

122 posted on 07/14/2005 4:36:15 PM PDT by ALWAYSWELDING
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To: GOP_1900AD

When I read about our "Trade" with china etc etc I sometimes think I'm in a 1960's zwilight zone episode where I have awoken in a parrallel universe and everything is topsy turvey.


123 posted on 07/14/2005 4:38:44 PM PDT by superiorslots (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: A CA Guy
Bill Clinton did not only let Osama go, but also allowed rocket and missile guidance technology go to China so they can now bomb any city in the USA with ease.

Agreed. But it was the greed of the entire fedgov that allowed China to gain Most Favored Nation status which is exactly what is feeding their kitty.

Reagan had the ba!!s to tell the rest of the fedgov. "He!! No!"

124 posted on 07/14/2005 4:39:25 PM PDT by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: GOP_1900AD
Do you know ho many SLICMs and SLIRBMs the Chinese have? Here's a hint, you can count them on one hand and have three fingers left over. If you go for the number that are reported operational, you'll have five fingers left over. At any rate, these aren't survivable against US SSNs.

As for the DF-41, it has a long way to go in production. Its still a someday weapon. In any event though, the Chinese are a much more compact vulnerable target than we are, and have far less of those bing crowd pleasers to launch. It would be suicidal for them to actually use a nuke on us. That doesn't make it impossible, people do crazy things, especially crazy people, but I think the Chinese know that we know that they are bluffing concerning nukes.
125 posted on 07/14/2005 4:40:59 PM PDT by SampleMan
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To: JediForce

When it comes to China some conservatives seem like weak little school girls.
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No. They're just money-grubbing whores; capitalists on steriods, where nothing else matters to them except making money.

President Bush's Uncle (41's brother) was just head of the US/China Chamber of Commerce.

Our nation is creating a monster.
Sun Zhu says if your enemy is superior irritate him.


126 posted on 07/14/2005 4:42:01 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (America is gradually becoming the Godless,out-of-control golden-calf scene,in "The Ten Commandments")
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To: Stellar Dendrite
You know, folks......THIS is the kind of DUer that's making these posts......

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127 posted on 07/14/2005 4:46:41 PM PDT by Jackknife (No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation.-MacArthur)
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To: Jackknife
OOPS!

I had 3 threads up in my Firefox....Posted that reply on the wrong thread!

128 posted on 07/14/2005 4:48:25 PM PDT by Jackknife (No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation.-MacArthur)
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To: snowsislander
Why we continue to treat this repugnant state as a normal trading partner, making them wealthy and allowing ourselves to go into debt to Red China is beyond me.

Simple.

China -----> $$$$$$$ -----> Fedgov !!!

129 posted on 07/14/2005 4:48:36 PM PDT by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: Echo Talon

Talking about the here and now. I'm sure the DF-41 will give them longer range in the future. But a handful of missiles and warheads is a long, long way from being able to piss on the big boys shoes.


130 posted on 07/14/2005 4:50:30 PM PDT by SampleMan
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To: SampleMan

just saying... if you can send a man to space, you can drop a bomb anywhere in the world.


131 posted on 07/14/2005 4:52:15 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
Mr Zhu, who has risen from the rank of colonel over the past five years, insisted he was expressing his personal views, and that they did not represent the policy of the Chinese government. Nor was he anticipating war between China and the US.

This is really the most important point.

Many Chinese know that in order to continue on the path of economic reform, they need peace and stability and won't give in to generals like Zhu. They know that strength comes through technological developement in a stable environment.

But I also think some Americans know that too and is looking for every way possible to add fuel to Zhu's fire so that a conflict can occur. Ya know, the "take em while we still can" mentality.

132 posted on 07/14/2005 4:52:48 PM PDT by ponder life
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To: RetroSexual
All we need to do is stop buying their sh*t at Wal-Mart.

Will you be able to persuade 30+ million Mexicans, who don't give a rat's a** about America other than it's a place where they can do as they please and nobody will touch them. They have more freedoms here, as illegals, than in their own native country.

133 posted on 07/14/2005 4:52:59 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Hi Heels
Oh, quick! Let's sell these good people our oil companies!

Don't start the negotiations until I get back from Wal-Mart.

134 posted on 07/14/2005 4:56:02 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: GOP_1900AD
One other thing neither the media nor even "the experts" mention. If I spend one dollar on defense in the US, I get X. If I spend 8.3 Yuan (e.g. 1 dollar) in the PRC, I get 10X.

Most definitely. The exact reason the greedy bastards gave them MFN status. For now, they're reaping some of those same benefits but not nearly to the extent of the PRC.

135 posted on 07/14/2005 4:57:28 PM PDT by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: superiorslots
China has none of that spending. They can spend their whole enchilada on new equipment. Just think of the equipment we could buy if we did not have to be the "world's policemen"?

Excellent point SS.

136 posted on 07/14/2005 4:58:48 PM PDT by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: superiorslots
When I read about our "Trade" with china etc etc see mosques springing up all over the U.S. I sometimes think I'm in a 1960's zwilight zone episode where I have awoken in a parrallel universe and everything is topsy turvey.

This works too.

137 posted on 07/14/2005 5:03:03 PM PDT by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: Stellar Dendrite

The N-Weapon ?

Jesse Jackson ain't gonna like that.........


138 posted on 07/14/2005 5:04:07 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: SampleMan
Its still a someday weapon.

Last year, China had a trade surplus of $32 BILLION with the U.S. If that keeps up, it won't be long before it is no longer a 'someday weapon'.

139 posted on 07/14/2005 5:07:56 PM PDT by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: blackie
You left out Frisco. :):)

Neutron bomb, please! Physically San Francisco and the Bay Area are gorgeous - It's just the people there that...
Shame to lay waste to that scenery.

140 posted on 07/14/2005 5:11:15 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru (June! It's bustin' out all over... ENJOY!)
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