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UK Muslims say difficult to stamp out radicalism
reuters ^ | 07/14/05 | reuters

Posted on 07/14/2005 11:19:43 AM PDT by Pikamax

UK Muslims say difficult to stamp out radicalism 14 Jul 2005 17:36:12 GMT

Source: Reuters

By Gideon Long

LONDON, July 14 (Reuters) - British Islamic leaders accept they must do more to stop impressionable young Muslims becoming would-be suicide bombers, but say the Internet and TV images from the Middle East and Iraq make their task difficult.

News pictures showing Muslims being killed in Iraq or incarcerated in Guantanamo Bay, the U.S. detention centre in Cuba, have angered many of Britain's 1.6 million Muslims, who view British foreign policy as partly to blame, they said.

Add to that the social deprivation in which many Muslims live, and you have a breeding ground for the kind of radicalism that inspired four young British Muslims to blow themselves up in London last week, killing 53 people.

Some Britons accuse the country's imams of fuelling Islamic radicalism by preaching firebrand sermons in mosques, attacking Western values. But Daud Abdullah, assistant general secretary of Britain's biggest Muslim lobby group, the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), said it is a misleading stereotype and imams are not to blame.

"I genuinely believe there are no mosques in Britain, or only a very few, that preach the kind of ideas which might inspire such actions," he said, referring to the attacks.

"You have to look to the college campuses and outside the mosques, where you find groups like al Muhajiroun or the Saviour Sect," he said, referring to two radical British groups.

"We know these groups are out there. It's up to Muslims, non-Muslims, the police and the media alike to isolate them, contain them and make sure their message is not heard."

MOTIVES REMAIN A MYSTERY

Al Muhajiroun gained notoriety three years ago by praising hijackers who carried out the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. The Saviour Sect hit British headlines in April when it gate-crashed an MCB news conference in London just before an election.

There is nothing to link these groups to the London bombers, whose motives have yet to be established. At least three of the four came from the same ethnic Pakistani community in Leeds, northern England, and were described by friends and relatives as peace-loving, friendly and uninterested in politics.

But many experts say the bombers must have been motivated at least in part by British policy in the Middle East and Asia. At least one of them had recently travelled to Pakistan. "If you want to live in peace over here, then let the rest of the world live in peace," said medical doctor Amjad Ali as he stood outside London's largest mosque on Thursday during a two-minute silence for the victims of the attacks.

"How many minutes of silence would you have to observe if we observed a minute's silence for all the people who've died in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kashmir and Palestine?" he asked.

The MCB says it fears some young Muslims in Britain are being drawn to groups like Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda through the Internet, where they can find a plethora of extremist Islamist websites, many of them run from the Middle East.

"We're talking about a tech-savvy generation. There's not a great deal we can do about it," Abdullah said. Sheikh Anwar Mady, imam of the London Central Mosque, urged families to help ensure children did not turn to radicalism.

"The family has got a large responsibility in supervising the way their children should behave," he told Reuters.

"Our youths should understand that making decisions regarding big important and public issues should only be the task of the scholars and leaders of the community." (Additional reporting by Mohammed Abbas)


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: convertthemall; islam; leaveislam; muslim
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1 posted on 07/14/2005 11:19:45 AM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

"It's not our fault!" alert!


2 posted on 07/14/2005 11:22:09 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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UK Muslims say difficult to stamp out radicalism

I disagree. If they're all deported, it'd be a huge step towards stamping out muzzie radicalism in the UK.


4 posted on 07/14/2005 11:22:43 AM PDT by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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"There's not a great deal we can do about it," Abdullah said.

or want to?


5 posted on 07/14/2005 11:23:40 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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I'm sure it is difficult to stamp out radicalism - especially when you're not really trying.

am I to believe that no one knew these guys were being taught radical crap?

am I to believe that the folks at mosque didn't know?

rubbish!


6 posted on 07/14/2005 11:24:09 AM PDT by johnnyBbad
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To: Pikamax

A good start would be to stop tying explosives around their waists and shoving them into crowds.

A review of the Koran would be most enlightening to many PC-types.

7 posted on 07/14/2005 11:25:37 AM PDT by ElCapusto (FOR ENGLISH, PRESS ONE.)
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UK Muslims say difficult to stamp out radicalism

it helps to wear hobnailed boots. It also healps if you actually stand up off your tacitly-supporting duffs and start stomping.

8 posted on 07/14/2005 11:28:37 AM PDT by King Prout (I'd say I missed ya, but that'd be untrue... I NEVER MISS)
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UK Muslims say difficult to stamp out radicalism

Tell us about it.

We're doing what we can but when something is this evil, it doesn't go down easily.

9 posted on 07/14/2005 11:29:26 AM PDT by evad (No action to secure borders, No action on judges... NO MONEY!)
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To: Pikamax

"British Islamic leaders accept they must do more to stop impressionable young Muslims becoming would-be suicide bombers, but say the Internet and TV images from the Middle East and Iraq make their task difficult."

Who was that feller that invented the Internet again??


10 posted on 07/14/2005 11:29:37 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly)
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sounds like theyve taken the first step to recovery by admitting there is a problem.


11 posted on 07/14/2005 11:31:05 AM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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British Islamic leaders accept they must do more to stop impressionable young Muslims becoming would-be suicide bombers, but say the Internet and TV images from the Middle East and Iraq make their task difficult.

So, since they are excusing "extremists" in their midst for the same reasons the "extremists" are giving for their terrorism, then that leads me to believe that the "British Islamic leaders" are also "extremists"...

Does that make me an intolerant Islamophobic hatemonger?

12 posted on 07/14/2005 11:31:16 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: F15Eagle
MEIN KAMPF = MEIN KORAN

ALLAHU AKBAR! = HEIL HITLER!

13 posted on 07/14/2005 11:31:25 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: darkwing104

The latter..


14 posted on 07/14/2005 11:33:38 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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News pictures showing Muslims being killed in Iraq or incarcerated in Guantanamo Bay, the U.S. detention centre in Cuba, have angered many of Britain's 1.6 million Muslims,

Who, exactly, is killing those Muslim Iraqis?

15 posted on 07/14/2005 11:35:54 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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"I genuinely believe there are no mosques in Britain, or only a very few, that preach the kind of ideas which might inspire such actions,"

It only takes one mosque to create these monsters. It also only takes one "moderate Muslim" to report the Imam and Mosque.
16 posted on 07/14/2005 11:36:23 AM PDT by BJClinton (The bubble of housing bubble threads is about to pop!)
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"How many minutes of silence would you have to observe if we observed a minute's silence for all the people who've died in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kashmir and Palestine?" he asked.

I just wish that one reporter would point out to people who think like this that it is the insurgents killing civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kashmir and Palestine not coalition forces. I would really like to hear the response.

17 posted on 07/14/2005 11:37:40 AM PDT by usurper (Correct spelling is overrated)
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First step:

Start by labeling the problem: Sympathizers -- that's what members of the Islamic community are -- if they don't openly oppose these acts of terror.

We must start by weeding out the sympathizers from the peace-loving Islamists (if there is such a thing!)


18 posted on 07/14/2005 11:39:21 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (Writing from Houston)
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you cannot imagine the difficulty involved when no effort is made by anyone to stamp it out!

Try winning the lotto without buying a ticket!
19 posted on 07/14/2005 11:43:59 AM PDT by Tannerone
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To: F15Eagle

I would suggest a one way all expense trip to the tropical paradice of Club Gitmo.


20 posted on 07/14/2005 11:44:44 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (The pursuit of life, liberty, and higher tax revenue (amended by the supreme 5).)
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