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To: gingersnaps; GarySpFc
...the hard sciences (not taking fluff courses like psych)...

Heh, heh. There's that old "ad hominem" thing again...and just when I was waiting to see if this post could drive its point home on evidence.

Gingersnaps, why would you presume that someone who is a professonal (albeit in a fluff field) couldn't develop a measured theory that might be correct. I would hope a professional in the fluffy little field of human behavior might see this case with greater clarity, depth, and dimension than the man in the street.

I won't go into it here because the evidence in this thread his too great to discuss...but there is much that does point to the possibility that Joren has sociopathic tendencies.

And I've got news for you, a lot of teenage boys have sociopathic tendencies when wrestling with their hormones. That's why teenage girls get pregnant. Thinking with Little Willie instead of listening to that weak, almost non-existent voice of conscience.

The development of theories that Joren might be a sociopath or might be a killer is not meant as attack on your son...

1,248 posted on 07/16/2005 2:11:34 PM PDT by Dark Skies (All Muslims aren't evil...just the real ones.)
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To: Dark Skies
Gingersnaps, why would you presume that someone who is a professonal (albeit in a fluff field) couldn't develop a measured theory that might be correct. I would hope a professional in the fluffy little field of human behavior might see this case with greater clarity, depth, and dimension than the man in the street.

Saw your post as I was on my way out...but since you're being civil to me I do want to take the time to respond.

Yes, there are some psychologists out there whose opinions are worth our time of day. (Though the field IS rife with incompetents IMO.)

However, my main point was that I don't think anyone, including licensed psychologists, can diagnose sociopathy from afar, based on a few photos and a lot of anonymously sourced garbage.

Again thanks for a reasoned and civil response. But now I've REALLY gotta leave.

1,256 posted on 07/16/2005 2:24:19 PM PDT by gingersnaps (Trying to inject a little reason into the debate does not make one an "anti-Holloway TROLL.")
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