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To: gingersnaps
And while I'm off on that little tangent, I also note that the much-adored Mr. Charles Croes, an eyewitness to that scene, said that Joran several times politely offered to help go find Natalee, IIRC -- a statement that has been ignored by those who want to paint Joran as an obvious devil.)

Sooooo its perfectly ok, because one is a teenager and a "chick-magnet" to REFUSE to tell the truth about what happened to a girl in light of the fact he was the last known person to be with her?

So if your son was the last person to be with a "chick" and she is suddenly never heard from again, than he is what a VICTIM?

So teens of today are known to not have parental guidance and love and so therefore all these stories about drunken drugged "chick-magnets" is perfectly normal?

OUCH!! I pray that parents do not think this is perfectly okay otherwise I dread to see the next generation.

1,241 posted on 07/16/2005 2:01:23 PM PDT by stopem
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To: stopem
Sooooo its perfectly ok, because one is a teenager and a "chick-magnet" to REFUSE to tell the truth about what happened to a girl in light of the fact he was the last known person to be with her?

I think you've misunderstood me. Calm down. I said no such thing, nor implied it.

The fact that my son's a chick-magnet is something over which I have no control. God bless him, he's a hunk, at least to teen-aged girls' eyes. I see girls throwing themselves at him, literally.

What that says about me and the amount of "parental guidance and love" I've given him is... precisely nothing.

My post was addressed to Gary and was in response to a specific topic he brought up in a reply to me, i.e. the ability to diagnose sociopathy from afar.

Our assumption that Joran is lying (an assumption I think we all agree on) doesn't necessarily lead to the conclusion that he's a sociopath. IMHO. If it were, then all of us would be in danger of being labeled sociopaths.

I don't know why exactly he's lying, none of us do. But I can imagine all kinds of scenarios that might explain it.

To all: Gotta leave again. Am not "running," just out of time.

1,251 posted on 07/16/2005 2:17:22 PM PDT by gingersnaps (Trying to inject a little reason into the debate does not make one an "anti-Holloway TROLL.")
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