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[UK Home Sec'y] Clarke 'shocked bombers British'
BBC NEWS ^ | 13 July, 2005 | BBC

Posted on 07/13/2005 3:44:24 AM PDT by M. Thatcher

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Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”

Ishaq:326 “Allah said, ‘No Prophet before Muhammad took booty from his enemy nor prisoners for ransom.’ Muhammad said, ‘I was made victorious with terror. The earth was made a place for me to clean. I was given the most powerful words. [like Islam is a peacefull religion] Booty was made lawful for me. I was given the power to intercede. These five privileges were awarded to no prophet before me.’”

Ishaq:510 “When the Apostle looked down on Khaybar he told his Companions, ‘O Allah, Lord of the Devils and what into error they throw, and Lord of the winds and what they winnow, we ask Thee for the booty of this town and its people. Forward in the name of Allah.’ He used to say this of every town he raided.”

Bukhari:V9B87N127 “The Prophet said, ‘I have been given the keys of eloquent speech and given victory with terror.’”

Terror and "eloquent speech" is what we are seeing and hearing. There is plenty of terrorism in the Koran. Muslims follow Muhammads example. That's the core belief of Muslims. Qur’an 33:26 “Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before.”

Ishaq:580 “Our strong warriors obey his orders to the letter. By us Allah’s religion is undeniably strong. You would think when our horses gallop with bits in their mouths that the sounds of demons are among them. The day we trod down the unbelievers there was no deviation or turning from the Apostle’s order. During the battle the people heard our exhortations to fight and the smashing of skulls by swords that sent heads flying. We severed necks with a warrior’s blow. Often we have left the slain cut to pieces and a widow crying alas over her mutilated husband. ’Tis Allah, not man we seek to please.”

Lord of the demons is right. It doesn't matter where a devote muslim is born. "tis Allah, not man they seek to please".

21 posted on 07/13/2005 4:30:43 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: M. Thatcher

Besides being British , They all just by chance , happen to be Muslims , imagine that .


22 posted on 07/13/2005 4:31:26 AM PDT by lionheart 247365 (( I.S.L.A.M. ; ) Islam's Spiritual Leaders Advocate Murder .. .. .. ))
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To: M. Thatcher

"I'm shocked, Mr. Rick. Shocked There is Gambling Going On In This Establishment."


23 posted on 07/13/2005 4:34:24 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (http://www.busateripens.com)
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To: M. Thatcher

I don't see how Mr. Clarke could be shocked, the signs were out there all alone. I am not even British and I expected something like this was going to happen, Just as I suspect there will be another attack from within the US, by American Muslims.


24 posted on 07/13/2005 4:34:31 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: M. Thatcher

They weren't "British." That's the point. They GREW UP in Britain, but were full-fledged Islamofascists. People better figure this out, and quick.


25 posted on 07/13/2005 4:36:36 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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They aren't British...they are Muslims!

Muslims are citizens of Islam, not of the country they are born in or naturalize to! We need to understand this and deal with them accordingly!

26 posted on 07/13/2005 4:38:02 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (BOHICA!)
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To: M. Thatcher
"Shocked they're British..."

I would really be shocked if we next found out that they were Muslims.
27 posted on 07/13/2005 4:38:29 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Americanexpat
I don't see how Mr. Clarke could be shocked, the signs were out there all alone. I am not even British and I expected something like this was going to happen, Just as I suspect there will be another attack from within the US, by American Muslims.

I'm afraid you are being terribly literal. If you have ever seen a loved-one die of Cancer or old-age you can see them dying but when it actually happens it is still a shock.

The UK and the US will be attacked again, we all know it, but it will still be a shock when it happens.

28 posted on 07/13/2005 4:40:16 AM PDT by cooper72
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Should he not say, "Islam is peace"?

Like I said in my last post, the time for talk is over. Words don't stop terrorists, guns and ammo do.

29 posted on 07/13/2005 4:41:02 AM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: Americanexpat

It's only a matter of time. Keep your eyes open for strange acting people, LoL! That's really hard to do around here, everyone is wierd. Maybe we should look for people acting too normal.


30 posted on 07/13/2005 4:42:05 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: cooper72
We in the west have to come to grips with the fact that Muslims owe their allegiance only to Islam.

They do not assimilate, they congregate and apparently fester.

31 posted on 07/13/2005 4:43:01 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (BOHICA!)
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To: M. Thatcher

British-born, but NOT British.

What do people expect when an enemy culture is raised in their midst?


32 posted on 07/13/2005 4:45:00 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Ajnin
Should he not say, "Islam is peace"? Like I said in my last post, the time for talk is over. Words don't stop terrorists, guns and ammo do.

The reason I said that is many American on here are being all smug and patronising. "Those Brits are crazy they should tell those muslims to ..." and YET your President after 9/11 said: "Islam is Peace" Get your own house in order first. :)

33 posted on 07/13/2005 4:46:03 AM PDT by cooper72
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To: coconutt2000

I am adding to your comments. What is this 'confront' business? Is that all the brits have to do is 'confront'? Then what? Does that imply that they have NOT been confronting?

To me it is a bunch of blather. What good is confronting a suicide bomber and that ilk. Wish that was the answer...also...how does one 'confront' a pack of savages hell bent on killing innocents? Come on... 'Great Britain' can do better than that.


34 posted on 07/13/2005 4:49:37 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: Redleg Duke

I was listening to a talk show yesterday. These people just don't get it. They think we need to make these people feel more welcome, help them "adjust" to western living better.
They think that they turn to "extremism" because they feel alienated. If you saw someone driving a black Ford F250 cursing and swearing down the I75, that was me.


35 posted on 07/13/2005 4:50:25 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: LS

They "grew up in Britian", a fact which has absolutely nothing to do with the task at hand. They were full fledged Muslim having been taught from birth who and what they were, anything but British.


36 posted on 07/13/2005 4:51:07 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Fortunately, we were on separate interstates! :-)


37 posted on 07/13/2005 4:51:44 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (BOHICA!)
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To: M. Thatcher

They have an insurgency on their hands or at least one in its beginning.


38 posted on 07/13/2005 4:52:17 AM PDT by junta (My litmus test for SCOTUS; Do you support racial quotas, yes or no?)
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"[UK Home Sec'y] Clarke 'shocked bombers British' "

Citizenship aside, they weren't "British."

That's a mental hurdle people are going to have to overcome to fight this war.


39 posted on 07/13/2005 4:52:22 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Ajnin

The Muslim community needs to be removed.

Otherwise it will continue to grow increasingly deadly like a cancer.


40 posted on 07/13/2005 4:58:21 AM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam)
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