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Suitcase nukes. That is one of worst scams perpetrated on the American public since the global warming hoax and one-hour Martinizing.


7 posted on 07/12/2005 8:37:51 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
As I understand it a "suitcase nuke" would be about the size of a small refrigerator. Then there's the problem of maintaining a nuke. Ive read that a nuke requires some pretty intensive maintenance that requires someone pretty highly trained to do it.
17 posted on 07/12/2005 8:43:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Frantickitten must die..)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

one-hour Martinizing.


What about 3 hour hannitizing?


20 posted on 07/12/2005 8:45:25 PM PDT by al baby (Father of the Beeber)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Suitcase nukes. That is one of worst scams perpetrated on the American public since the global warming hoax and one-hour Martinizing.

Typo. That should be a suicase Nike, with swoosh.

29 posted on 07/12/2005 8:48:56 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I disagree. One-hour Martinizing is still worse.

(Thanks for a good laugh--and good point).

35 posted on 07/12/2005 8:52:02 PM PDT by jammer
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

"Suitcase nukes. That is one of worst scams perpetrated on the American public since the global warming hoax and one-hour Martinizing."

Absolutely. The required maintenence on these devices is high, the lack of shielding becaule of the small size causes the electronics to decay quickly. not to mention all of the other issues.simple detection, etc.


40 posted on 07/12/2005 9:02:13 PM PDT by jbstrick (insert clever tagline here)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

They may not be here, but in 1965, I was "familiarized" with the 155mm nuc round. About 200 lbs, 6 inches by 20.


51 posted on 07/12/2005 9:39:32 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
worst scams

You got that right.

The Soviets had backpack/suitcase nukes prepositioned in the USA since the mid-1970s

He got that wrong. The US had a roughly similar system, the Small (and Special) Atomic Demolition Munitions, from the 1950s through the 1980s. We gave up on it because it was a bad idea. The weapon was very low yield and could (barely) be carried by one strong man. Cruise missiles made these weapons obsolete.

As far as the Soviets are concerned, anybody who thinks the Sovs lost track of nuke one needs to hit some books on how the evil empire maintained its nukes. The military didn't even have control of them -- the KGB, which passed down intact to the FSB and similar services in the other Republics, had them. One reason the Soviets were always fearing that we would do a first strike, is that they might have suffered nuclear decapitation.

As far as terrorists getting such a weapon from Iran or Pakistan -- Muslims are crazy enough to try. Viz. Abdul Qadeer Khan. But -- making a small nuke is significantly harder than making a big one. To be man-portable it needs to be an extremely small nuke. Even assuming they blew off shielding (bad idea with Pu-239, even if your guy is a suicide you want him to last long enough to emplace the weapon) it's still a heavy, bulky thing.

And do not assume that the hostiles could move a radioactive weapon through the borders and through the nation with the ease they move conventional explosives.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

69 posted on 07/12/2005 10:25:47 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Support and avenge our fallen operators)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Suitcase nukes are real. That is not debatable.

Does AQ have them and have they smuggled them into America? That is debatable.

96 posted on 07/13/2005 7:24:20 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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