Posted on 07/12/2005 7:58:13 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
Paris city hall will not honour Scientologist Cruise
Tue Jul 12, 7:42 AM ET
The Paris city hall has pledged not to make US actor Tom Cruise an honorary citizen because of his membership of the Church of Scientology.
In a debate late Monday, the Socialist-controlled municipal assembly approved a resolution "never to welcome the actor Tom Cruise, spokesman for Scientology and self-declared militant for this organisation."
Last month on a promotional tour for his film "War of the Worlds," the 43-year-old star chose the Eiffel Tower to propose to girlfriend Katie Holmes. He was also made an honorary citizen of the southern French city of Marseille.
Like many other European governments, the French authorities view Scientology -- founded in the United States in 1954 by science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard -- as a dangerous cult.
Cruise was described as a "sect-symbol" by a Socialist deputy.
Even Hubby doesn't try that. lol
Seriously though, we taught all three Darks to think for themselves. The idea of being controlled by someone else is abhorent and we passed that on.
Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer.
Good parenting choice.
Of course you should have answered him! You know more than he does. I was getting ready to blast him on that one when I saw that you already had!
LOL well he was dissing my child and my parenting skills.
Did you notice though that once there was more than one person against him(her? it?) they dissappeared?
I don't know about that. Never? I've read, long ago when Travolta 'converted' about the original publishing in sci fi circles. Maybe it wasn't his intent, I don't know, but the connection remains.
Consider this recent article alone: Scientology: What it really is and isn't
Here is a quote from just this source:
Q: What was L. Ron Hubbard's background? A: He wasn't a psychologist or psychiatrist. He was born in Tilden, Neb., in 1911 and served in the Navy during World War II. As a member of the New York Explorers Club, he was credited with participation in several scientific expeditions. He was a friend of John Campbell, the editor of Astounding Science Fiction, one of the best-known magazines of the pulp era. Campbell, who became an enthusiastic advocate for Dianetics, published some of Hubbard's work in Astounding.
Overall Dianetics struck me as somewhat Jungian...
It struck me, the parts of it I am familiar with, as Jungian also, and rather a copy or treatise at that. And then Hubbard gets even wierder.
Yep. I have been on his/her case since I first read what that idiot was saying last night. He/she never answered me back. Coward! ROFLOL!
Good for us. We make a good team.
Not only that, he seems to not want to talk to nully. :)
When I was in college, my mother borrowed it from the library and we both read through it, or for me parts of it, and laughed, too. It was wierd. Strange. Easy to see how people can associate it with sci fi or certain psychology ideas. But again, as a student of psych at the time, I thought his psych ideas were borrowed, and that he didn't necessarily understand what he was writing about. I thought it was boring, too.
If he didn't think that about her then, he certainly could now, as he is 'higher level' member. I think the cult turned him off to medicine more than her treatments. They could easily have known about his experience, it was all over the tabloids, and played it to their advantage. I wonder what he thinks now? I wonder if he'd do the same for her now as he did then? I used to think he's a nice guy, but now he's so deep in, he kind of has a wierd vibe, like Cruise. It is too bad, I don't see him ever leaving. And that's the m.o. of a cult, to prey on the vulnerable, and he certainly was at the time.
Hubbard was quite good at borrowing little bits of stuff that worked from a wide array of sources. He had a model of how he thought the mind worked and he'd cram them into that framework.
Pound to shape
File to fit
Shim to match
Paint to hide
Now now nully! It's a lovely eye.....and the fangs only lend character.
Yes, you are right, come to think of it. He doesn't seem like the same person he was before he got into that cult. I wonder what he would do now if his wife or one of his children had cancer. Would he let them die?
Yep. And he never answered me, and I sent him several lengthy posts.
Wow, that really sums it up. We were asked to read parts of Dianetics in a psych class I took years ago, to see how poorly written, poorly understood work looks and misleads. The psych portions are almost gibberish, and seem heavily plagerized. He almost seems, from what I've read of him, as a sociopath. I do recall and am looking for recent links reading about the sci-fi connection. His sci-fi friend published his works under sci-fi and, if not Hubbard's intent, he let it go just to get it published, it seems.
Thank you. I've always thought it was rather patriotic, being that it's red white and blue...
It's too horrible to imagine that he would, yet he is such a devotee of the cult, it's hard to imagine that he wouldn't buy into it all the way. I sometimes think that when I see his kids with him. And if he didn't distance himself from the ill family member, would the cult admonish him? Reprimand him? Demand that he let them die and distance himself? Would he follow that directive? When I think of all the prominent, apparently educated cult members, I think of these things. Like Greta Van Susteren. She's an attorney. Surely she's had a psych course? Their beliefs contradict so many things.
I'm gonna wake everyone by laffing. Night! LOL
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