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DemoncRAT lies - continously made up in whole & parcel by adoring fans in the media.
1 posted on 07/12/2005 1:36:28 PM PDT by Steven W.
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It is reasonable to assume that Cooper had some contact with Wilson after the conversation with Rove. If so, then clearly the question "Who actually authorized your trip?" would surely have come up. Or, using the Rove tip, "how come your wife gets to authorize your trip to Niger?"
Soooo, what does Cooper say about subsequent conversations with Wilson?
49 posted on 07/12/2005 2:20:52 PM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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Looks to me like the MSM and the Dims are sticking their necks in a noose that will be snapped tight when the rest of the story comes out.


55 posted on 07/12/2005 2:30:24 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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"After that — which represented no change from the situation that had existed for 18 months — Cooper made a dramatic public announcement and agreed to testify."

Byron goes soft on Cooper in describing his last minute public announcement, merely "dramatic". I'd call it totally self-serving and intentionally deceptive.

Get a load of Cooper's soap opera statement: "Mr. Cooper told the judge that he had been prepared to go to jail until shortly before the hearing. "Last night I hugged my son good-bye and told him it might be a long time before I see him again," Mr. Cooper said. But just before today's hearing, he had received "in somewhat dramatic fashion" a direct personal communication from his source freeing him from his commitment to keep the source's identity secret. "It's with a bit of surprise and no small amount of relief that I will comply with the subpoena," he told the judge."

What a bunch of horse pucky!

61 posted on 07/12/2005 2:41:57 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@What Did Andrea Mitchell And Tim Russert Tell The Grand Jury?com)
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Luskin points out that on the evening of July 11, 2003, just hours after the Rove-Cooper conversation, then-CIA Director George Tenet released a statement that undermined some of Wilson's public assertions about his report. "Karl knew that that [Tenet] statement was in gestation," says Luskin. "I think a fair reading of the e-mail was that he was trying to warn Cooper off from going out on a limb on [Wilson's] allegations."

I have posted Tenet's Statement many times over the last two years.

Getting this bit of information that Rove was aware by this Cooper conversation that he knew the gist of some of what Tenet would say makes sense--obviously Tenet and others (reporters and adminiistration officials) were trying to figure out why the hell Wilson had been sent to Niger and why was he making these bizarre charges.

Cooper becomes more despicable with each revelation (not surprising). What is surprising is that Fox news took on Cooper as a pundit recently, evidently due to his new-found notoriety. I find that disgusting. He is unethical and deceitful.

72 posted on 07/12/2005 3:11:13 PM PDT by cyncooper
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Matt Cooper is a damn liar (never to be trusted again) but what can you expect from someone married to Mandy Grunwald, Hillary's & Bill's political advisor and daughter of former editor of Time magazine, Henry A. Grunwald, "who led the publication's shift from conservatism to a more centrist view before becoming a United States ambassador to Vienna".

One of the most noted items of Grunwald's tenure was when he personally wrote Time's editorial during the Watergate scandal asking President Richard Nixon to resign.

"The nightmare of uncertainty must be ended," he wrote in a Nov. 12, 1973 editorial. "A fresh start must be made. Some at home and abroad might see in the president's resignation a sign of American weakness and failure. It would be a sign of the very opposite."

After serving 11 years as managing editor, Grunwald served as editor-in-chief of all Time Inc. publications _ including Fortune, Sports Illustrated, People and Money _ until retirement in 1987.

81 posted on 07/12/2005 3:20:28 PM PDT by kcvl
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Watching the media write about Rove's "crime" reminds me of something:

"The propagandist hires a hall, rents radio stations, fills a great stadium, marches a million or at least a lot of men in a parade. He employs symbols, colors, music, movement, all the dramatic arts. He gets us to write letters, to send telegrams, to contribute to his cause. He appeals to the desire, common to most of us, to follow the crowd. Because he wants us to follow the crowd in masses, he directs his appeal to groups held together already by common ties, ties of nationality, religion, race, sex, vocation. Thus propagandists campaigning for or against a program will appeal to us as Catholics, Protestants, or Jews...as farmers or as school teachers; as housewives or as miners.

With the aid of all the other propaganda devices, all of the artifices of flattery are used to harness the fears and hatreds, prejudices and biases, convictions and ideals common to a group. Thus is emotion made to push and pull us as members of a group onto a Band Wagon." (Institute for Propaganda Analysis, 1938)

I still don't believe that Miller is in jail to protect Rove.


82 posted on 07/12/2005 3:21:02 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist." -- John Adams. "F that." -- SCOTUS, in Kelo.)
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Cooper, Wilson, and every other charlatan associated with propagating this fraud on the the public ought to be so thoroughly discredited by now that no one would ever pay them the slightest respect or attention again. Unfortunately, the LSM continues to try to distort the story, and will do so to their last pathetic breaths. Rove is irrelevant to the real story, which is how Cooper and other lamebrains were carrying water for the vicious smear job being perpetrated BY Joe Wilson against Bush and in support of the Kerry campaign.


99 posted on 07/12/2005 3:38:04 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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Karl Rove again runs rings around the liberal jackasses. Are the DemocRATS stupid or were they trained to be that way?


131 posted on 07/12/2005 4:56:44 PM PDT by afnamvet (Jet noise...The Sound of Freedom)
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Why would any "source" ever trust Cooper to keep his fat mouth shut?


135 posted on 07/12/2005 5:02:17 PM PDT by Checkers (Gitmo has killed fewer people than Michael Schiavo.)
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MSM = CREEPY LIARs


149 posted on 07/12/2005 5:38:22 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (fiat voluntas Tua)
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Then--burn him back.


152 posted on 07/12/2005 5:43:50 PM PDT by Mamzelle (rot, Judy, rot)
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Finally, Luskin conceded that Rove is legally free to publicly discuss his actions, including his grand-jury testimony. Rove has not spoken publicly, Luskin says, because Fitzgerald specifically asked him not to.

I think there are going to be a lot of red faces in Washington when Fitzgerald finally reveals what this investigation has all been about.

156 posted on 07/12/2005 5:48:59 PM PDT by McGavin999
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ping


159 posted on 07/12/2005 5:58:37 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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Matthew Cooper joined TIME as deputy Washington bureau chief in July 1999. Previously, Cooper was deputy Washington bureau chief and national correspondent for Newsweek. He joined the magazine as deputy national bureau chief and national correspondent in August 1996. His coverage of national affairs included the Clinton scandals, the impeachment trial, Newt Gingrich's resignation and the ensuing power squabble in the GOP, the aborted tobacco settlement, U.S.-Iraq relations and the 2000 presidential campaign.
Prior to Newsweek, Cooper was a senior editor at The New Republic, where he wrote the acclaimed "White House Watch" column. He profiled many political insiders. Previously, Cooper was a White House correspondent for U.S. News & World Report, where he covered Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign. He also served as the magazine's Atlanta bureau chief. Cooper was also an editor at The Washington Monthly, where he wrote and edited articles on culture and politics. From 1986 to 1987, he was a Washington correspondent for Thompson Newspapers, and from 1984 to 1986, Cooper served as a writer and researcher at the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights.

Cooper moonlights as a stand-up comedian, and in November 1998 was named "Washington's Funniest Celebrity" after an evening of comedy at Washington's Improv. His Clinton impersonation has been praised by Vanity Fair and New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd praised him for an ability to "spin whimsy out of smarmy," proclaiming, "I want to be more like Matt Cooper."

A New Jersey native, Cooper is a 1984 graduate of Columbia College in New York City and lives in Washington D.C. with his wife, Mandy Grunwald, and their son.


167 posted on 07/12/2005 6:14:32 PM PDT by Ua Ruairc of Bréifne
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Somewhere I read that Wilson "burned" his wife in a ny times op-ed piece. As I recall, the piece appeared before the Novak article. Was I dreaming, or just had too much to drink?


174 posted on 07/12/2005 8:18:14 PM PDT by uscabjd
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bump


175 posted on 07/12/2005 8:21:49 PM PDT by lowbridge
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Matthew Cooper better not get too comfortable in his street clothes. He may be facing a perjury charge soon. And that isn't going to be result in a few weeks in club Fed - more like years of hard time.


179 posted on 07/12/2005 8:59:42 PM PDT by anymouse
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later read


182 posted on 07/12/2005 9:55:15 PM PDT by Mo1 (We will stay in the fight until the fight is won ~~~ President G.W. Bush)
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Must read ping....


185 posted on 07/13/2005 5:45:53 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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