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Coalition's Russia soldiers in Iraq

Posted on 07/12/2005 4:50:27 AM PDT by iso



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: allies; allyrussia; gwot; iraq; multinational; oif; russiantroops
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1 posted on 07/12/2005 4:50:27 AM PDT by iso
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To: Paleo Conservative; KevinDavis; Straight Vermonter; Cindy; Wiz

ping


2 posted on 07/12/2005 4:52:33 AM PDT by iso
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To: iso

How about that.


3 posted on 07/12/2005 4:55:38 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: iso

Huh? Guess I'm behind. I hadn't heard this.

What kind of gun is that? Rounds look larger than 7.62x39. 7.62x54? I would imagine a bear to control at full auto if so.


4 posted on 07/12/2005 5:01:33 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: jb6

Russian? He has a 101st Airborne patch on his shoulder, but why the UN hat? It's been many years since I have been in, but is his weapon a SAW?


5 posted on 07/12/2005 5:54:01 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: VeniVidiVici

looks like a pecheneg lightened up for special ops/airborne use


6 posted on 07/12/2005 5:55:00 AM PDT by Waverunner
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To: VeniVidiVici

Looks like a PK.


7 posted on 07/12/2005 6:13:39 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: GarySpFc

Russian? He has a 101st Airborne patch on his shoulder, but why the UN hat?==

It look like russian VDV hat (vozhdushno-desatnie voiska) means russian air-borne troopers. Exactly the analog of speciality of 101 division:). Maybe it is suveneer?
Guy looks like russians and his gun looks like famous PKM ( Kalashnikov machine gun).


8 posted on 07/12/2005 6:17:55 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: RusIvan

Could it be that he is one of those Brooklyn Russian prior service immigrant's who joined the 82nd for quick citizenship?


9 posted on 07/12/2005 6:27:13 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Could it be that he is one of those Brooklyn Russian prior service immigrant's who joined the 82nd for quick citizenship?==

WHo knows:). Guy with beret resembles one russian popular actor. His beret looks like russian VDV (air-borne trooper) beret.
Gun is PKM in my opinion in its new last decade modification. I see it in form of barrel end.
SO may be:).


10 posted on 07/12/2005 6:42:57 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: RusIvan; jb6

The beret does appear to be the kind worn by a Russian paratrooper or of the UN, but the patch seems to be a combination of the 101st Screaming Eagles with a Russian flag above that. It may be he is a Russian attached as an obersver, which doesn't surprise me. I know they are helping us in the WOT in ways we are not hearing. We'll know more once JB6 takes a look.

The weapon is after my time, but it definately appears to be the PKM as found on the web at: http://www.sovietarmy.com/small_arms/pk.html


11 posted on 07/12/2005 8:45:32 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: RusIvan

I agree he's Russian. He's clearly using "non standard" clothing - but looking beyond that, he's either a bona fide VDVer or perhaps Spetsnaz.


12 posted on 07/12/2005 8:56:36 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: GarySpFc
That's not a UN Beret, that's a Russian airborne beret and the typical striped airborne t-shirt. Also if you look at this weapon in the first photo it's an AK derivative.
13 posted on 07/12/2005 9:41:51 AM PDT by jb6 ( Free Haghai Sophia! Crusade!)
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To: iso

Well, is it official troops from Russia or is it a mercenary? It is no surprise if it was a mercenary.


14 posted on 07/12/2005 9:43:20 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: GarySpFc

The flag is an Iraqi flag above the 101st patch. My guess is he's an observer.


15 posted on 07/12/2005 9:44:31 AM PDT by jb6 ( Free Haghai Sophia! Crusade!)
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To: GarySpFc

Not UN, he has a matching striped shirt.


16 posted on 07/12/2005 9:46:19 AM PDT by colonialhk (sooprize sooprize sooprize)
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To: Wiz
Well, is it official troops from Russia or is it a mercenary? It is no surprise if it was a mercenary.

He's definately not a merc. He's clearly Russian, and as JB6 replied likely an Russian observer.
17 posted on 07/12/2005 11:50:21 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: colonialhk; jb6

I missed the striped shirt. That said, we agree he is a Russian paratrooper, and is likely attached to the airborne unit of the 101st. That however does not explain the Russian machine gun, which I cannot imagine an observer carrying while attached to an American unit. THS MACHINE GUN DOES NOT COMPUTE.


18 posted on 07/12/2005 11:56:40 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

I believe it is a PKS most probably from Ukraine and part of the boatload Saddam bought.


19 posted on 07/12/2005 12:28:16 PM PDT by colonialhk (sooprize sooprize sooprize)
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To: GarySpFc

The machinegun is a SAW. Now the assault rifle in the first photo is Russian.


20 posted on 07/12/2005 1:00:49 PM PDT by jb6 ( Free Haghai Sophia! Crusade!)
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