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Posted on 07/11/2005 8:12:04 PM PDT by nwctwx
I was using the London underground system last time these scum attacked on 7/7 while I was visiting my family in the UK. This hits a particular note with me.
I agree with you and I hope that the SWAT teams in our above cities are taking notes.
Political correctness is a luxury on fools think we can afford (read liberals).
Oh Kelly, I'm so sorry.
I'm glad you're ok.
Man with cache of weapons arrested outside Brentwood train station
Friday July 22, 2005
Man with cache of weapons arrested outside Brentwood train station
BRENTWOOD, N.Y. (AP) A man with a record of illegally possessing a pipe bomb is being held by police after he was found outside the Brentwood train station in a van with a cache of weapons.
The 34-year-old Gilbert Hernandez was arrested yesterday after detectives found in his van a machete, imitation handguns, an electronic stun gun and chukka sticks. Hernandez, who was seen outside the station at 5:30 p-m, has been arrested and charged with two counts of criminal possession of a weapon.
A Brentwood resident, Hernandez is expected to be arraigned in Central Islip later this morning.
Suffolk County Police are on heightened alert status at all transportation facilities in the area.
Hernandez was convicted of possessing a pipe bomb in 1996.
http://cbsnewyork.com/local/NYC--WeaponsArrest-nyn/resources_news_html
Yes I was OK it was just a shock really and the blind luck of the whole day. I woke early because of jetlag and got on a commuter train. If I had gone later at the time I planned I would have been on the Aldgate / Liverpool St. train.
The worst part was the walk back from London because the metro trains and buses where closed. It was like the refugee scene in the war of the worlds movie thousands trudging along at the same pace in the same direction not talking etc.
I understand.
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http://www.internet-haganah.us/harchives/004548.html
July 21, 2005
Poor Sad Sa'ad. Now the UN is picking on him too.
Perhaps the UN is in league with the Zionists and Crusaders?
UN orders Saudi opposition group's assets frozen:
UNITED NATIONS, July 19 (Reuters) - The U.N. Security Council ordered governments on Tuesday to freeze the assets of the Movement for Islamic Reform in Arabia, a London-based Saudi opposition group accused of ties to al Qaeda.
Britain, backed by the United States and Saudi Arabia, proposed adding the group's name to the council's list of organizations linked to the Taliban, Osama bin Laden or his al Qaeda network.
A council committee approved the proposal days after Washington added the group to its own compilation of such organizations. London ordered a freeze on any assets the group may have in Britain last December.
The organization is run by Saad al-Fagih, an exiled Saudi dissident who was put on the U.N. list in December.
Posted by aaron at July 21, 2005 02:01 PM
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Pakistan is still the key terror hub, says US
AFP ^ | FRIDAY, JULY 22, 2005 01:42:24 PM | AFP
Posted on 07/22/2005 4:37:13 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick
WASHINGTON: Despite US efforts and Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf's crackdown on militant Islamic organizations, Pakistan remains a key hub of terrorism, The Wall Street Journal said Friday.
Among the reasons is the army's reluctance to go after militias that have helped Pakistan defend its claim on Kashmir, which it disputes with India, South Asia analysts and Western intelligence officials told the daily.
Musharraf's government also relies on support from political parties that are often sympathetic to the aspirations of Islamic militants, the sources added.
In Pakistan's tribal areas of Baluchistan and the Northwest Frontier Province, the Taliban still train and recruit without government interference, they said.
And Afghan military commanders complain that Pakistan is providing sanctuary and aid to the militias they're fighting, they added. "Since 9/11, there are only really two prominent places in the world where you can train for jihad: Iraq and Pakistan," Christine Fair, a South Asia expert at the United States Institute of Peace, a nonpartisan federal think tank in Washington, told the daily.
"If you're a young Muslim male looking for training, Pakistan is where you're likely to find the opportunity, particularly if you have family and ethnic ties there," she added.
I heard that these new bombs in London were more sophisticated than the ones on 7/7. In fact, the proper mixing of the "chemicals" was botched and only the detonaters blew . . . I'm glad these guys are morons. I hope they stay that way.
Another attempt? Seems London is under siege. Are we next? If so, are we prepared?
I see tense times ahead.
British check & UK Guy, can you tell us how the average folk are handling this? I'd be interested to know.
It's not clear to me that the person shot five times was a suicide bomber. All I can find is that he was an overweight person wearing a heavy coat. I heard it was in the 70s which might be chilly for someone used to the 90s (S. Asia?). Can anyone confirm that this person had bad intentions?
Al-Qaeda-linked group claims responsibility for latest bombings
July 22, 2005 Updated at 6:47 AM EDT
Associated Press
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050722.walqaeda0722/BNStory/Front
A statement posted Friday on an Islamic website in the name of an
al-Qaeda-linked group claimed responsibility for latest blasts targeting
London's transport system.
The group, Abu Hafs al Masri Brigade, also claimed responsibility for
the July 7 bombings which killed 52 people and four suicide bombers.
The statement's authenticity could not be immediately verified.
"Our strikes in the depths of the capital of the British infidels our
only a message to other European governments that we will not relent and
sit idle before the infidel soldiers will leave the land of the two
rivers," said the statement."
The "two rivers" in the statement refer to Iraq's Euphrates and Tigris
rivers.
On Tuesday, another statement was issued in the name of the same group
threatening to launch "a bloody war" on the capitals of European
countries that do not remove their troops from Iraq within a month.
"While we bless these strikes, our next attacks will be Hellish for the
enemies of God," said the latest statement.
"We will strike in the hearts of European capitals, in Rome, in
Amsterdam and in Denmark where their soldiers are in still in Iraq pursuing
their British and American masters," the statement added.
The Abu Hafs al Masri Brigades are named after the alias given to
Mohammed Atef, Osama bin Laden's top deputy who was killed in a U.S. air
strike in Afghanistan in November, 2001.
Experts have said that the group has no proven track record of attacks,
and note it has claimed responsibility for events in which it was
unlikely to have played any role, such as the 2003 blackouts in the United
States and London that resulted from technical problems.
What I have read is that he was running from 10 to 20 cops, and attempted to get on the subway, that is when he was shot.
He is said to be one of the men from yesterday's attack.
Cindy has the link to the main thread above, on this page.
Same Bomb Cell May Still Be Active
Thursday, July 21, 2005
By Simon Freeman
London Times
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163242,00.html
LONDON -- The copycat attacks on London suggest that the terrorists
behind the July 7 blasts are still at large and intent on causing havoc
and bloodshed, according to terrorism analysts.
Robert Ayers, a security analyst at Chatham House in London, said that
he believed that the same group was behind both attacks.
"All along I've been saying that you had four guys that died [in the
July 7 bombings], but the infrastructure that trained them, equipped
them, funded them, pointed them at the right target — the
infrastructure's still in place, still here," he told the Reuters news agency.
But if the same group was involved, the obvious question was why the
first wave of attacks was so professional and deadly, and the second was
apparently so amateur, continued Mr. Ayers, a former U.S. intelligence
official.
He pointed out that police had recovered unused explosives from various
sites, including a rental car abandoned by bombers at Luton (search).
Police carried out 10 controlled explosions on the rental car in the
Luton station parking lot before they placed it on a flatbed truck and
took it away.
"One speculation I've had all along is that they left those explosives
in the car for another group to pick up and carry out a second attack,
but when they got there the car had already been taken over by the
police, so they have had to cobble something together fairly quickly," he
said.
"From what I've been able to gather, either the bombs themselves are
very, very small compared to two weeks ago, or they've got a
manufacturing problem and only the detonators are going off, and not the primary
charge. They're certainly using explosives that aren't nearly as
powerful."
Experts agreed that there were two explanations for today's attack. The
first, more benign, is that the attacks were carried out by "imitative
amateurs" inspired by the July 7 blasts. The second, more worrying, was
that the same group behind the suspected Al Qaeda-linked attackers had
struck again.
That would show that, far from exhausting its strike potential, the
group was capable of causing fresh havoc despite heightened security
precautions and a high state of alert among both the police and public. It
also would show that the group could readily mobilize fresh operatives
— perhaps even would-be suicide bombers — to follow the example of
the four bombers who blew themselves up.
Michael Clarke, a security expert at King's College London (search),
told Reuters: "The more we know about the bomb attack two weeks ago, the
more skillful it looks, well planned — the people behind it know what
they're doing."
Prof. Paul Rogers, of Bradford University (search), agreed that the
second wave of attacks was an "ominous" development. He said: "It implies
there might be another cell primed and ready to attack. The one ominous
thing is that this appears to be a group of a similar nature to the
previous July 7 bombers."
Prof. Rogers said, however, that the apparent failure of the devices to
detonate on the Underground lines would provide investigating teams
with crucial evidence for the earlier attacks.
He said: "The level of forensic evidence will be extremely high, much
higher than last time. They will have the devices and much can be done
to them in terms of fingerprinting, DNA, the origin of the detonators
and where the bags were bought. If this was a series of dummies
deliberately timed to cause mass panic, then it puts the people responsible at
considerable risk of being found."
Professor David Capitanchik, a terrorism expert based at Robert Gordon
University in Aberdeen, Scotland, warned that today's explosions may
have been "amateurish" devices deliberately aimed at emergency services
who arrive at the scene. He said eyewitness reports of small explosions
in a backpack could indicate that they were not intended to explode
properly until they had been recovered.
"It appears as if the detonators have gone off, but reports indicate a
much more amateurish-made device than the bombs two weeks ago," he
said.
"In other parts of the world which have experienced incidents like July
7 in London, smaller bombs have later been put in places with the hope
that they will go off when the police and emergency services examine
them. This indicates that in today's situation the police are going to
take a great deal of time and exercise great care, as there is a
possibility that these bombs are intended to entrap police and emergency
workers."
All were agreed, however, that this Thursday's attacks would add to the
fear, which had been beginning to subside. Mr Ayers said that although
casualties appear to have been avoided, the long-term damage to the
city's psyche may take even longer to heal.
Mr. Clarke said: "It is entirely plausible that they will have planned
a campaign, not just one bomb. It's part of terrorist psychology that
one bomb is never enough.
"You gain the effect that you want by creating a sense that there are
lots of bombs and the public are going to have to live with this for a
long time, unless they do something, unless the government changes. The
second event is a prerequisite to the psychology of a campaign ... This
important because it's momentum for terrorists."
Former government intelligence officer Crispin Black agreed that those
who planned the attacks were trying for the maximum psychological
effect.
Speaking outside the police cordon surrounding Warren Street tube
station, he said: "It could be that this is a nasty sort of copycat attack
mimicking what happened two weeks earlier but not using quite the power
of explosives, but still getting the chaos and fear effect as you can
see around us.
"In this stage of a counter-terrorism campaign you're bound to get the
feeling that rings are being run around us."
Mr. Black said this will be the case until intelligence on all the
attacks improves. But he said incidents like today should help police catch
the perpetrators.
"In this kind of attack it looks as thought the terrorists have put
their heads above the parapets, and that falls into Scotland Yard's
hands," Mr Black said.
"It then becomes much easier for police to start tracking them down."
He added: "It's too early to tell who these people are, but even if
they're just copycat attackers, that's a pretty depressing thing to think
about, that there are young people out there who are so radicalized
they are prepared to bring London to a kind of taunting halt. And that's
the best scenario."
Debka is saying that the person shot five times today in London vaulted over a barrier and was carrying a large pack.
uly 22, 2005
Huge push to get Tube network operating as normal
The London Times
By Ben Webster, Transport Correspondent
STAFF with London Underground worked through the night to get services
running this morning after the organisation insisted that it had done
everything possible to improve security after the bombings two weeks
ago.
More than 2,000 police have been standing guard at Tube stations and on
buses since July 7. They have used emergency powers under the Terrorism
Act to carry out thousands of searches of passengers and their luggage.
British Transport Police said that their main line of defence against
further bomb attacks had been to maintain a highly visible police
presence.
Most of the effort has been concentrated in the central Zone 1 of the
capital, where all the July 7 attacks took place. Three of yesterday’s
attacks were in Zone 2, suggesting that the bombers may have chosen
targets where they were less likely to encounter security checks. Many
roads around yesterday’s targets remained closed last night.
A team of about 30 sniffer dogs, able to detect explosives, began work
this week on the Underground. A transport police spokesman said: "The
dogs can go on trains as well as check out bags at ticket barriers and
on station concourses. They operate just like dogs who search for drugs
except they have been trained to sniff out explosives."
Officers have been given briefings on typical behaviour patterns of
would-be bombers. They, or their associates, tend to make reconnaissance
trips before launching their attacks and in the process may display
unusual behaviour. The transport police spokesman said officers might take
a closer look at “people who stand on a platform and wait for a train
to come in but don’t get onâ€.
The transport police have 681 officers dedicated to the Tube, and most
annual leave has been cancelled to ensure that as many as possible are
available. Another 600 officers patrol the mainline stations in London.
The Metropolitan Police has 1,300 officers in its transport operational
command unit who patrol London’s 8,000 buses. London Underground also
has up to 4,000 staff on duty at any one time at its 275 stations and
they have been told to spend as much time as possible on concourses and
platforms looking for suspicious activity. Tube and bus drivers check
their vehicles at the end of each run.
Despite frequent announcements about not leaving luggage unattended,
Tube staff have been dealing with 250 suspect bags a day in the past two
weeks. More than 400 incidents have been considered serious. False
alarms have led to dozens of station evacuations and service withdrawals.
Aslef, the train drivers’ union, called this week for fixed penalties
to be issued to those who forget their bags. It has also been advising
its members to take trains out of service if they have any defects that
could compromise security, such as faulty radios.
The transport police and Transport for London are considering a range
of new technologies that could protect transport networks, including
facial recognition software and body and luggage scanners. However, TfL is
not convinced that the potential benefits justify spending the £200
million needed to equip every station.
Policy Exchange, the think-tank, has recommended that conductors should
be reintroduced on buses. Tube unions have also called for the return
of guards.
LATEST ON LINES
# Central, Waterloo & City, Jubilee, Bakerloo and East London Lines
running a normal service
# Victoria and Northern lines operating but with some delays possible
# Hammersmith & City and Circle lines suspended
# District Line suspended between Edgware Road and High Street
Kensington
# Piccadilly Line has no service through Central London
# Updates at www.tfl.gov.uk
# Euston Road is open
# Streets around Oval Tube station and Shepherds Bush Green open
# Area around Shoreditch High Street/Old Street junction remains closed
and drivers are advised to avoid the area
Thursday, July 21, 2005
London bomb suspect lived at Seattle mosque
Seattle Times
By David Heath and Hal Bernton
Seattle Times staff reporters
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002393231_aswat21m.html
A suspect in the London bombings lived in a Central Seattle mosque in
early 2000 after he had scouted out a possible terrorist training camp
in Bly, Ore.
Haroon Aswat, 30, is believed by British police to have helped plan the
July 7 attacks that killed 56 people and injured hundreds, according to
London newspaper accounts and Newsweek's Web site.
Aswat had made as many as 20 cellphone calls to two of the bombers in
the days leading up to the attack, including one just hours before the
bombs went off, according to The Times of London.
Aswat was arrested by Pakistani authorities recently while carrying a
belt packed with explosives, cash and a false ID, the Guardian reported.
However, Newsweek reported that Pakistan's information minister had
denied that Aswat had been detained, and said U.S. law-enforcement
authorities were uncertain whether he was in custody.
Aswat was described by an acquaintance as a thin, quiet man from the
Asian subcontinent who frequently read the Quran. He impressed some of
the Americans who met him as a fighter.
"He was fearless —--he would charge a hundred men," Ali Shahid
Abdul-Raheem, a Muslim convert who met Aswat in Seattle, said in 2002. He
described Aswat as "a lion."
Aswat came to the Northwest in 1999 when James Ujaama, a former Seattle
activist, tried to set up a jihad training camp in rural Oregon.
Ujaama was based in London, where he had become a follower of radical
cleric Abu Hamza, an al-Qaida supporter.
Abu Hamza sent Aswat to the United States to check out Ujaama's plans,
authorities said.
Aswat arrived with Oussama Kassir, a Swede of Lebanese descent with a
lengthy arrest record. They were dismayed by conditions at the ranch,
according to eyewitnesses who spoke to The Seattle Times.
On the night of their arrival, Ujaama did not even have a key to unlock
the gate to the entry road, the eyewitnesses said. While everyone
waited in the dark, he had to walk nearly a mile up the road to find a
tenant who could open it.
Upon arriving, Aswat and Kassir were escorted to two cramped and
dilapidated travel trailers, which lacked bathrooms or even running water.
And during the next two weeks, they lived a hand-to-mouth existence,
hunting rabbits and quail to help put food on the table.
At one point, Kassir suggested that they might even consider eating --
if they got hungry enough -- a few of the ranch dogs, a dish he told
others at the ranch he'd sampled while a fighter battling the Soviets in
Afghanistan, according to sources who were there at the time.
During that time, Aswat and Kassir "met potential candidates for jihad
training, they established security for the Bly property through the
use of guard patrols and passwords, and they and others participated in
firearms training and viewed a video recording on the subject of
improvised poisons," according to an indictment of Ujaama.
Ujaama was indicted by federal authorities in Seattle in 2002 for
offering support to the Taliban. He later cooperated with government
authorities to build their case against Abu Hamza. Because of his cooperation,
he was sentenced to only 24 months.
Aswat was unindicted co-conspirator No. 3 listed in the Ujaama
indictment, federal sources said. The FBI had thought Aswat was killed fighting
in the war in Afghanistan.
Kassir eventually became so upset by a plan Ujaama proposed to
personally profit from the camp that Kassir told others he was going to kill
Ujaama and bury him on the property, according to an eyewitness. However,
someone talked Kassir out of it.
In a 2002 interview, Kassir -- who authorities said boasted about being
a "hit man" for Osama bin Laden — wouldn't confirm going to Oregon
but told The Seattle Times, "I love al-Qaida. I love Osama bin Laden."
After leaving the Bly ranch, Aswat lived in Seattle for a month or two
in early 2000 in a now-defunct storefront mosque in Central Seattle
called Dar-us-Salaam.
In 2000, Dar-us-Salaam was damaged in an earthquake and shut down.
Abu Hamza faces terrorism-related charges from Ujaama's scheme. He is
on trial in London on British charges that include solicitation of
murder. The United States wants to extradite him if he is acquitted there.
Ujaama could not be reached last night for comment. His brother,
Mustafa Ujaama, said his brother had a "long few years" and has tried to put
his life back together since being released from prison in spring 2004.
Mustafa said he did not know anything about Aswat and recent accounts
of his supposed ties to the London bombings.
The new international terrorism connection to Bly revives memories of a
troubled time for Perry Thompson, a retired carpet layer who visited
the ranch several times in the fall of 1999.
"I'm surprised to see it back in the news," Thompson said. "It's hard
to think now of what might have happened."
Thanks for the updates. Heading off for vacation. I'll probably go crazy without access to FR and TM. I don't think I'll have access to anything but CNN International. Ugh. Stay safe everyone - will check back in 10 days.
"one of the failed bombers attempted to set of his device while standing next to a woman holding her baby."
Words cant describe such evil...:'''-(((
'Mozambique' them [double tap then headshot just to be sure] with extreme prejudice and alacrity >>>:-(((
Thanks God PROFUSELY for Jetlag ;-) :-))).
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