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To: Plutarch; FBD; Landru
People who are anti-busness, who view all business owners as greedy capitalists who exploit the working class for profits are not conservative and they are certainly not patriots in a country built on free enterprise.

The Antis would love Cuba and North Korea. No Walmarts over there.

77 posted on 07/13/2005 3:07:46 PM PDT by bayourod (Winning elections is everything in a democracy. Losing is for people unclear on the concept.)
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To: bayourod

It is not anti-business to expect our immigration laws to be enforced. As to exploiting the working class, just who is being exploited when a business hires an illegal at less than the legal minimum wage? It certainly isn't those who would prefer to see our laws enforced. The real exploiter is the greedy business owner who maximizes his/her profits at the expense of others (the illegal immigrant, the legal worker who cannot work for the ridiculously low pay and the taxpayers who must pay for the services the illegal cannot afford).
And no, not all business owners are greedy capitalists, but some are. To point this out is not anti-business, it's just stating a fact.


99 posted on 07/13/2005 5:54:56 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: bayourod
>"...are not conservative and they are certainly not patriots in a country built on free enterprise."

Lets' talk about how the founders viewed unlimited immigration, shall we?

Thomas Jefferson on uncontrolled immigration:

"They will bring with them the principles of the governments they leave, imbibed in their early youth; or, if able to throw them off, it will be in exchange for an unbounded licentiousness, passing, as is usual, from one extreme to another. It would be a miracle were they to stop precisely at the point of temperate liberty.

These principles, with their language, they will transmit to their children. In proportion to their numbers, they will share with us the legislation. They will infuse into it their spirit, warp and bias its direction, and render it a heterogeneous, incoherent, distracted mass.

I may appeal to experience, during the present contest, for a verification of these conjectures. But, if they be not certain in event, are they not possible, are they not probable? Is it not safer to wait with patience 27 years and three months longer, for the attainment of any degree of population desired, or expected? May not our government be more homogeneous, more peaceable, more durable?

Suppose 20 millions of republican Americans thrown all of a sudden into France, what would be the condition of that kingdom? If it would be more turbulent, less happy, less strong, we may believe that the addition of half a million of foreigners to our present numbers would produce a similar effect here.

If they come of themselves, they are entitled to all the rights of citizenship: but I doubt the expediency of inviting them by extraordinary encouragements"… ~Thomas Jefferson [From: Notes on the State of Virginia -1787]


111 posted on 07/13/2005 10:23:44 PM PDT by FBD
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To: bayourod

Dang Rodriquez... is this all you do?


223 posted on 07/15/2005 3:38:08 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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