Posted on 07/11/2005 5:08:17 PM PDT by bayourod
America's openness to newcomers willing to work hard to succeed creates a virtuous cycle that benefits all ---SNIP___
THREE ADVANTAGES. It is hard not to notice the disproportionate number of immigrant success stories in America. All across the world, America is considered the land of opportunity, and so it should not be surprising that the immigrants who do get here end up being uncommonly successful: They are the ones who fought the hardest, stared down the most competition, were driven by the fiercest pangs of hunger. They arrive to find a university system that is unparalleled for the variety it offers and the breadth of the community it embraces.
Immigrants have three advantages over most people born in America. First, by prevailing in the rigorous competition to enter America, they have proved themselves capable of overcoming both past and future adversity. Second, they do not take America for granted. They have a strong, even desperate desire to prove that they deserve a place in the society of their chosen country. Finally, they take pride in their native culture, and thus are determined never to tarnish its image so that other immigrants who follow will find at least an equal welcome.
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You really love that "we need illegals to do the jobs 40 million aborted children can't do" bit, don't you? Are you going to answer the questions I asked you in that other thread, or not?
If only they spent as much effort protecting those 40 million murdered babies as they do protecting the millions of illegals....
Of course not. Questions like that cause the quislings to flee much like a vampire shown the holy cross.
I don't think she is referring to the current crop of millions of illegal aliens who aren't assimilating but are sucking America dry.
Point taken. I'm just asking roddy to explain why he thinks the two issues are related. For one thing, just because 40 million people have been aborted in the US over the last 30+ years doesn't necessarily mean that every single one of them would be alive today AND working. It's an unproveable, and he knows it, but he keeps using it without explaining the inherent lack of logic in it. Hey, it gives him a hobby, I guess...
Heh heh. Yeah, that's one reason I keep asking. The other reason is because I'd love to see what kind of answer he comes up with. Strap in, it's gonna be an instant classic!
The vast majority of them would be alive. Also remember the ones not born due to those orignally aborted.
BTW, why your defense of roe v. wade.
Don't flatter yourself by thinking that I remember you or even know what question you are talking about.
Didn't your parents teach you the basics of common courtesy such as you inform (ping) someone when you insult them, or did they raise you to make snide remarks behind peoples' backs?
Now what is this question you claim I've dodged; why do think it's so important and why don't you know the answer?
The "vast majority," eh? Can you give an exact number? How about a ballpark figure?
BTW, why your defense of roe v. wade.
Because I question the connection between illegal immigration and abortion, you infer that I defend Roe v. Wade? That's quite a stretch, there.
It's funny - in my previous post, I almost mentioned that as being part of roddy's tactic: "What? You question my logic? You must be pro-abortion!" Nice tr, but try sticking to the actual topic.
Well, it's not like she takes on any tough questions, or considers the ways in which the system can break down. Apparently she's still in high school. Immigration can be a benefit to America, and often is. But the assumption that the country can solve pressing problems simply by taking in new people is one that may not hold up forever. Also, this sort of self-celebration can rub people the wrong way, even if there's some truth in it.
Today's "immigrants" know that America's Favorite Trust Fund Baby (Little Howie Dean) is eagar to open the checkbook (Uncle Sam's,not his own) as soon as they claim asylum or swim the Rio Grande.
Thanks for asking.
Here it is: "Loyal American conservatives believe in defending American sovereignty, protected and secure borders, and the preservation of American culture, customs, traditions and language. These are the values of loyal American conservatives. Are they yours?"
The pro-illegal alien contingent never provide a yes or no answer. They bob & weave, stonewall and deny, mount an attack which always features the race card, or simply disappear from the thread. Amazing how consistent their behavior is on this one simple question.
How will you handle it? A simple yes or no answer is all that is required.
Oh yeah - forgot to ping ya, roddy.
Just using common knowledge that avg. American life expectancy is around 71 years for a male amd 78 for a female and that roe has been around for 32 years, one can extrapolate that the vast majority of those aborted in the last 32 years would still be living if not aborted in the womb.
Do you have any other NARAL or FAIR spin to regurgitate on this thread?
No, first they take billions of dollars from American tax payers every year, then they take us for granted.
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