Afghans sheltered SEAL from Taliban

CNN ^ | 11 July 2005

[lilylangtree]

Great to hear there are friends in Afghanistan.

[Moonman62]

OH WOW! I THOUGHT THEY ALL HATED US! hmmmm /sarcasm

There were quite a few FReepers that suggested nuking the entire area. I hope they read this story and reconsider.

[Dont_Tread_On_Me_888]

There has to be a better way to fight this WOT than sacrificng SEALS and other Special Forces types.

I am "not against" the war, but our tactics suck. We should not be putting our best at risk where there is so little to gain. Special Forces should be trained for high priority work, not fighting common foot soldiers.

15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi. If we had nuked Mecca, and then if we told Syria, Yemen, Iran et al. that if they harbor terrorists, they are at risk of getting nuked also, this war would have been over long ago. You would have seen a mad scramble by all the terror states to see who could root out their own terrorists the fastest.

We need to do more than just "take off the gloves". We need to dust off ALL the weapons at our disposal and stop trying to win the "Miss Popularity" contest.

Save our Rangers. Save our SEALS. Save ALL our troops from this BS, and STOP giving terror nations billions of $$$$ in "aid".

[dimk]

Best thing to do for their kindness would be to give villagers some artillery pieces, rifles, ammo, medical supplies etc. Those villagers are not what we would call "civilians". They wouldnt shelter the seal if they thought they couldnt protect themselves, they deserve a reward.

This sortof thing can start very positive developments. If US special operators could rely on locals for guides, shelter, food etc (like SAS did in many of its opertaions in Borneo or Malaya) it would be huge. Many of the local recruited in Malaya went on to fight with SAS in Borneo. Bond forged in a situation like that doesnt break easily.

US SF tactical skill and support + locals knowldge of the area is the nightmare come true for Taliban.

[Mylo]

Osama Bin Laudin and Al Queda hate the Royal Family of Saudi Arabia almost as much as they hate us. If you think nuking Mecca will save our Rangers and SEALs rather than putting all their lives at greater risk (and our own as well) your a bigger fool than anyone ever took you for.

[hosepipe]

[ Rush estimated that of the worlds one Billion Muslims, maybe less than 1% are actively terrorists. ]

If true then 99% of muslims are BAD muslims only 1% are Good muslims.. The Quran supports the 1%... NOT the 99%..

[Kretek]

And where are those wonderful Muslim's that live in this country? They have yet to take a stand on terrorism. I guess that the cat has their tongue's.

Neither have you, unless you're posting to FR from a recreation tent in Afghanistan or Iraq.

And for the record, clearly, you support slavery as you're not out there screaming at the top of your lungs about how much you condemn it...

[Terriergal]

God Bless and PROTECT those villagers.

AMEN! I agree with you in that prayer!~

[Oldexpat]

this village and their leader needs to be rewarded.
I hope that US takes good care of them in return for sheltering our wounded hero.
My son has been in Afghanistan for two tours and vast majority want Taliban dead and gone. He doesn't believe we have enough resources in A. and are giving enough aid.
The International Aid Orgs are useless..US Armed forces is doing most of the real development.

[Terriergal]

And for the record, clearly, you support slavery as you're not out there screaming at the top of your lungs about how much you condemn it...

What slavery? The Muslim governments are the ones that promote slavery.

[Kretek]

If true then 99% of muslims are BAD muslims only 1% are Good muslims.. The Quran supports the 1%... NOT the 99%..

Prove it. Post your documented citations.

[Terriergal]

http://www.icarusindie.com/Literature/Labyrinth/index.php?book=thebot/ff02.html

The first step is to figure out who is the enemy of Islam that they would fight against. The answer is given throughout the Koran with the most clear verse stating plainly "...surely the unbelievers are your open enemy" (Koran 4:101). But unbelievers are not just the enemy of the believers but "...surely Allah is the enemy of the unbelievers." (Koran 2:98) It goes so far to say "...Allah does not love the unbelievers" (Koran 3:32). The Koran further states in 60:13 "O you who believe! Do not make friends with a people with whom Allah is wroth." Whom Allah is wroth with is explained earlier in the Koran stating that he is wroth with the hypocrites, the polytheistic and those who think evil thoughts of Allah (48:6). However, it is not just those who Allah is wroth with that are not to be taken as friends. "Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully;" (Koran 3:28).

The next step is to figure when the enemy should be fought against. According to 2:191, "...do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them;" (Koran). When it comes to the Sacred Mosque the believers are not to fight unless provoked and "...whoever then acts aggressively against you, inflict injury on him according to the injury he has inflicted on you and be careful (of your duty) to Allah and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil)" (Koran 2:194). Muslims are to "...kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter..." (Koran 2:191). Whether or not this is cause and effect is not clear. The Muslims are able to kill the enemy wherever they are found however it may be because the enemy did something to them first or it may be simply because the enemy was found. If all it takes to be an enemy is to not believe then there may be no need to any provocation to allow a Muslim to kill them other than simply being the enemy of Allah. Disbelief may simply be provocation enough

[Terriergal]

Troll alert. Take a look at posting history.

[Kretek]

Bigot alert. Look at this thread.

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And I like Spam. The kind that comes in a can, anyways.

[Mylo]

The Koran also tells one to show mercy to the weak, not to deliberately target them as terrorists do. It also instructs one to show honor to the Jew and Christian on account of them worshiping the same God; so it is unclear in the Koran if by "unbeliever" they meant Jews and Christians. It is also a bit presumptuous to say that 99% of a Billion people have less knowledge about what their holy book says than you. Have you read the entire Koran, or just the juicy bits? Have your read it in Arabic (translation isn't allowed, and considering the history of the Bible that seems a good policy)? Have you read the theological musings of any Koranic scholar other than Osama Bin Lauden, because you and he seem to be of the same mind on the subject.

[miliantnutcase]

These villagers could of been Kurds. The more secular Afghani's tend to be more supportive of the US.

[McGavin999]

God protect those villagers because the Taliban will go after them.

[Terriergal]

Kretek
Since Feb 25, 2005

Boy he hung around under the radar for a while huh?

[Terriergal]

It also instructs one to show honor to the Jew and Christian on account of them worshiping the same God; so it is unclear in the Koran if by "unbeliever" they meant Jews and Christians.

I understand. However it's hard to reconcile that with the idea that they can kill 'unbelievers' wherever they find them. I have seen too many Imams say "no we don't worship the same God" (I have to agree with them there...) for those statements you made to give me much assurance. :-\

[Mylo]

Only a very small population of Kurds in Afghanistan, and they are Muslim also. They are only "secular" in relation to many Arab Muslims who continue the Arabic (but not necessarily Islamic) tradition of keeping their women unheard and unseen and imprisoned.