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Chinese labor for oil drilling eyed in Colo.
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Posted on 07/11/2005 6:26:47 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

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To: WakeUpAndVote

ping for later read.


21 posted on 07/11/2005 6:55:43 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy since 1992!)
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To: jb6
Imagine that?

CHINESE from China actually coming to the United States and working in a blue collar, bedrock industry such as oil, minerals or transportation, right in our great American rocky mountains in the West. I would have never imagined such a thing in America.

22 posted on 07/11/2005 6:56:29 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

As an aside I don't see you leaving Tokyo, to take a job in western Colorado.


23 posted on 07/11/2005 7:00:54 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane

The Dane 'asides' are pretty darn good. Maybe not accurate, but they are fun to read and well constructed.


24 posted on 07/11/2005 7:03:16 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
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To: Dane

Would you take the job if the People's Liberation Army paid your tuition?


25 posted on 07/11/2005 7:07:04 AM PDT by primeval patriot
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To: primeval patriot
Would you take the job if the People's Liberation Army paid your tuition?

Huh?

BTW, how come you didn't major in petroleum engineering.

Me I'm happy there is drilling going on in Western Colorado, the American owned companies doing the drilling have enough enemies from the envirowhacko left.

26 posted on 07/11/2005 7:12:52 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Happy2BMe

American oil workers are way overpriced, they want much more than the world price for labor. If IT, manufacturing, and other fields can benefit from free trade, then so should oil.


27 posted on 07/11/2005 7:26:58 AM PDT by SandyB
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To: jackbenimble
There are lots of boys and gals out in Wy...who have been out of oil work a looong time...who never shied away from rough neck work or mud logging..

My wife being one who mud logged for quite a while..

There is NO need to bring in the Chi Knee....plenty of American boys out of work or not doing the kind of work they know how to do..

Be interesting to see just where this gas and oil will ultimately end up..too

The chinese that are here...I am betting these boys are also Red Army...because the Chinese do not separate business from their REAL business..

imo

28 posted on 07/11/2005 7:40:21 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Does the Red Crescent have falafel dollies?)
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To: Dane
Huh?

Put your thinking cap on Dane.

These imported workers were given a secondary education, for free.

Who do they work for?

One guess.

29 posted on 07/11/2005 7:45:29 AM PDT by primeval patriot
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To: Happy2BMe
Immigrants from Mexico and Latin America who were poorly educated can make up for labor shortages in only some type jobs, but not the type upon which America should build its future economy.

We must educate their children (and the children of natives) to be workplace ready in a digital world.

Even operating a basic production machine requires some computer, math and reading skills. President Bush didn't say "No child left behind." because he wanted a leisure class that appreciates art and literature.

There's a reason for having an educated populace. State legislators understand this. That's why they want all of the high school graduates in their state to have equal access to their state colleges.

30 posted on 07/11/2005 7:45:35 AM PDT by bayourod (Winning elections is everything in a democracy. Losing is for people unclear on the concept.)
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To: jackbenimble

There is a big gas boom in western Wy

With lots of American boys doing the dangerous dirty work..

Just like their pappies did before them..

They will take any oil job set before them...and take the same
chances they have always taken and take the hours the location and the weather..like they always have..

But will they do the job for slave wages...when oil companies are raking in trillions on the rubes driving
hundreds of commuter miles a day..

Probably not..

It isnt's easy competing against slaves..and the dark side
of captialism..the side that would sell it's own gramma out for a buck and its own countrymen and country for even less.

These are the descendants of the torries of the American revolution...the real leeches..

imo


31 posted on 07/11/2005 7:47:52 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Does the Red Crescent have falafel dollies?)
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To: Happy2BMe

a lot of chinese money has gone into canada.

this would be the payoff for chinese influence buying in canada.


32 posted on 07/11/2005 8:08:43 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Happy2BMe; RadioAstronomer; OpusatFR; tkathy; cynicom; KenmcG414; B4Ranch; swampmonster; bmwcyle; ..
This sellout has been brought to you by the University of Wyoming The owner of Golden Bear Drilling & Services Corporation is Carl Liu http://www.uwyo.edu/intprograms/initiatives/china.html The Wyoming - China Initiative

Project Background

The University of Wyoming has had a variety of formal and informal relations with institutions of higher education in China for many years, but there has been no systematic attempts to coordinate activities between Wyoming and China, particularly through the aegis of the University. During the past two years, however, opportunities have been presented to develop a comprehensive and mutually beneficial program of exchanges between the University and counterparts in China, as well as between the State of Wyoming and natural resource rich provinces in China. The State and University are beginning to capitalize on these opportunities for economic development in the state. The objectives of this brief report are to narrate the steps which have led to this crucial moment in the definition of cooperative exchanges, to articulate the goals of this initiative, and to identify the events on the horizon which will bring the project to the implementation stage.

Project Goals

1. Promote state economic development by attracting Chinese National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) engineering know-how, technology, manpower, and capital to improve oil and gas production in Wyoming. * Objective One: To facilitate investment by CNPC in an oil producing property in Wyoming to implement a field demonstration project for improved oil recovery. * Objective Two: To attract direct investment or joint venture capital for additional improved oil recovery projects. * Objective Three: To involve major oil companies in the activities of the project. * Objective Four: To involve Wyoming independent oil and gas producers in project development with CNPC. 2. Promote state economic development in industry of mutual benefit to Wyoming and China. * Objective One: To work initially with appropriate Chinese ministries to promote mining, processing, and use of trona. * Objective Two: To work with appropriate Chinese ministries to promote electric power production, production of natural gas from coal seams, ammonia and related fertilizers, other manufacturing industries, and tourism. 3. Support commercial development activities through applied research projects jointly conducted by the University of Wyoming, Department of Energy and other federal agencies, and industry. * Objective One: To involve the Department of Energy (DOE) in the research and development activities for improved oil recovery technology jointly with the University of Wyoming and CNPC. * Objective Two: To continue CNPC financial and other support for the academic research activities of visiting scholars, exchange students, and professors. 4. Foster educational and cultural exchanges. * Objective One: To develop an ongoing cultural and ESL (English as a Second Language) exchange program to provide training and faculty development for Chinese and Wyoming faculty and students. * Objective Two: Cultivate ties with Heilongjiang and Shandong provinces to develop broad based state-to-state exchanges including economic, cultural, and educational programs.

Recent and Up-coming Project Activities

In May 1996, Drs. Harris and Liu arranged for a delegation to visit China; the delegation included Drs. Harris, Liu, and Lewis Bagby, Director of International Programs at the University of Wyoming. This delegation visited high level representatives of CNPC headquarters in Beijing, Daqing and Dagang oil fields, and the governor of Heilongjiang province, located in northeastern China and a prospect for a state-to-state exchange program. The trip was very successful in identifying areas of cooperation which will be mutually beneficial to the State of Wyoming, and our counterparts in China.

In December 1996 and January 1997, site visits were conducted by a joint CNPC/UW team to evaluate the potential for deployment of improved waterflooding and tertiary enhanced oil recovery technology to improve oil production for Wyoming fields. Although the reservoir quality and geology give rise to complex technical problems, which can be properly addressed only through intensive engineering manpower and adequate capital, the team concluded that there is a high likelihood for commercial improved oil recovery projects in Wyoming's mature fields. The team conducted a detailed evaluation for one large field demonstration project and prepared a technical report for subsequent evaluation by top level CNPC management. Additional projects will be evaluated and examined with the ultimate goal of CNPC producing a target level of 5,000,000 barrels of oil per year.

A number of additional activities are to take place in the immediate future. In late March 1997 Dr. Carl Liu will lead a delegation of Wyoming businessmen to China in order to (1) introduce them to Chinese oil and gas industry; (2) continue discussions to finalize CNPC's participation in a field demonstration project; (3) investigate the potential for Wyoming oil producers to operate in China; (4) discuss ways to enhance use of Wyoming trona in China; (5) discuss several research and development projects between UW, DOE, and CNPC; and (6) further cultural programs, including English as a Second Language, Business Training program for CNPC executives in UW's College of Business, and a "rule of law" project funded by the U.S. Information Agency.

In April 1997 a second technical evaluation team will visit Wyoming to look specifically at tertiary enhanced oil recovery (EOR) projects, including the possibility for beneficial use of Wyoming's enormous CO2 reserves for improved oil recovery. The team will also explore the potential use of trona as an alkaline additive for improving oil recovery in chemical EOR.

Governor Jim Geringer plans to visit China as soon as his schedule permits, to continue his support for the activities and to begin to build personal contacts both within CNPC and other ministries as well as with officials of Wyoming's potential sister states.

Project History

The Wyoming-China Initiative derives from efforts on the part of the University, through the Enhanced Oil Recovery Institute (EORI), to provide techinical support for oil and gas producers in the state. Over the last several years the downturn in the domestic oil and gas business has resulted in major oil companies dramatically curtailing capital investment in domestic oil production, in divesting of mature oil and gas fields to independents, and looking overseas for major finds to sustain reserves and production. While Wyoming independent producers have talented, dedicated and capable personnel, numerous discussions with independents over the last few years led to the conclusion that the primary impediment to increasing recovery of oil from Wyoming's mature oil fields is acess to and assistance in application of sophisticated and continually developing techniques for secondary and tertiary recovery of oil, as well as the capital to implement these methods.

In seeking to address this problem, Dr. H. Gordon Harris, Director of EORI, and Dr. Carl Liu, have worked to bring together the complementary resources of oil producers in Wyoming and China. As in Wyoming, China has mature oil fields which require successful application of secondary and tertiary techniques to sustain production. However, oil production in China has several aspects which are completely different from domestic production. First, essentially all onshore oil production in China is controlled by a single entity, the China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC). Nine somewhat autonomous oil "fields" (or oil producing basins or regions) are responsible for day-to-day operations and ongoin field development, and these oil fields report to CNPC headquarters located in Beijing. Overall daily oil production in China is similar to that in the US. The largest of China's oil fields, Daqing Oil Field, produces approximately 1.3 million barrels of oil per day, and Daqing has been successful in maintaining this level of oil production for twenty years through continually implementing improved secondary and tertiary oil recovery methods.

One unique aspect of the Chinese oil industry is its huge work force; Daqing Oil Field has approximately 260,000 employees. Consequently CNPC, Daqing and other oil fields have a large number of highly trained engineers, geologists and geophysicists who are conversant with technologies needed in Wyoming to slow the decline in production of oil from our mature fields. This work force is trained by a CNPC University of Petroleum system, together with technical universities and institutes associated with several of the oil fields. Two other aspects of the Chinese oil and gas production industries (and other industries) should be noted. One is the centralized administration and bureaucratic emphasis on personal relationships, and with this the need for foreigners desiring to conduct business in China to establish long-term, ongoing interactions with individuals at high levels of authority in appropriate oil fields and within the central CNPC administration. Finally, Chinese culture values official contacts with state and federal agencies in the US. Consequently, Drs. Harris and Liu have been working for the last two years to establish and cultivate these relationships. They have hosted several delegations from CNPC over the last two years on visits to the University as well as state and federal agencies.

33 posted on 07/11/2005 8:25:50 AM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: Colorado Doug

Jim Geringer, another sellout to the Chinese.


34 posted on 07/11/2005 8:30:40 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: joesnuffy

You can thank University of Wyoming for this. See my post above


35 posted on 07/11/2005 8:32:49 AM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: Happy2BMe

I was in Colorado a few weeks ago. They are growing and new business is picking up from Colorado Springs to Denver. It is a happening spot. New homes all across those fields. I think their are more Conservatives there than libs.


36 posted on 07/11/2005 8:34:31 AM PDT by JFC ( President Bush, You are being prayed for along with our country daily, by millions of us.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

All I can tell you is My West Texas Crude is pumping 24 7 and I am getting offers right and left to buy my royalities.


37 posted on 07/11/2005 8:35:50 AM PDT by JFC ( President Bush, You are being prayed for along with our country daily, by millions of us.)
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To: JFC

Keep it pumping !


38 posted on 07/11/2005 8:38:30 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: Colorado Doug
Evidently, the University of Wyoming wants to help our judges elevate themselves to China's high standards as well. I am stunned! Your tax dollars at work.

Update on China Initiative

Lew Bagby, Director of International Programs, reported on the first phase UW’s Wyoming-China Initiative, which was a trip by legal educators, law specialists, and state judges this fall to Heilongjiang Province in China. The delegation consisted of the following members: Supreme Court Jsutice Richard Macy, District Court Justice Elizabeth Kail, retired (and a member of the UW Board of Trustees), David Nicholas, private attorney, John Burman, dean of the UW College of Law, Patricia Pattison, Associate Dean in the College of Business, Michael Horan, Dept. chair in the Department of Political Science; Dr. Carl Liu, Project Coordinator at the University of Wyoming, and Dr. Bagby. The theme for this visit was "Rule of Law."

39 posted on 07/11/2005 8:42:43 AM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: Happy2BMe
How short lived memories go.
Al Gore during his attempted Presidential run demonised anything that came close to big business.
Especially scornful against big oil, since he painted these people are nothing but polluters, price gougers, environmental criminals.
John Kerry followed in his footsteps by lambasting big oil as profiteers.
Then there was this now infamous Senator Durbin who made himself a career by suing big oil for price gouging time over again and again. Nothing ever came out of it, except his home paper the Chicago Tribune delved in it and promoted him.
These liberal people gave a clear signal that under Democratic control big oil is on the undesirable list.
All of a sudden when foreign interests try to take their eyesores off their laden shoulders there comes a flip flop in dimensions unimagined.
They turned not only into tolerators but try to gain sympathy by appearing as "rescue oil knights".
If it were not for a full Democratic attack campaign against Haliburton I could have lost my bearings.
But, imagine hate, hate and some more for Haliburton who came forward to extinguish oil fires, repair oil lines, transport fuel, and on top of it lose over 60 workers. They got singled out because as we now know and the left told us: It's for oil and Bush is an oil man.
Talk about a flip flop by first signaling to the world that Democrats hate oil companies and then try to pull the surprise that they never meant it.
On the other hand signaling and encouraging the enemy is nothing new, and played by Democrats in the case of Iraq:
The more attacks, the better to sway staying power and run away again instead of fighting this terror war abroad.
40 posted on 07/11/2005 9:02:26 AM PDT by hermgem
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