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To: musanon
No one here has claimed "veto power". -- Judaical review by the SCOTUS is an opinion. Such opinions can only be enforced by other branches of government, - fed, state or local.

It is repugnant to our constitutional republic for the SCOTUS to be issuing opinions on issues not before the court.

Now, who has standing to bring the issue before the court after the states and the Congress have passed such an amendment?

At what point in time would this happen? After the amendment is passed it is the Supreme Law of the Land. Before the amendment is passed, the court has no power to grant cert.

And finally, a SCOTUS that issues opinions on issues not before their court is a rogue court again subject to impeachment en masse.

251 posted on 07/11/2005 12:54:48 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
No one here has claimed "veto power". -- Judaical review by the SCOTUS is an opinion. Such opinions can only be enforced by other branches of government, - fed, state or local.

It is repugnant to our constitutional republic for the SCOTUS to be issuing opinions on issues not before the court. Now, who has standing to bring the issue before the court after the states and the Congress have passed such an amendment?

Do you even -try- to read the previous posts in a discussion?
Back at #198, I posted:

Theoretically, the SCOTUS could 'strike down' an Amendment as unconstitutional. -- And that exact point was argued before them in 1919, in a move to nullify the 18th.

The Supreme Court issued its most sweeping decision concerning the Eighteenth Amendment in June 1920.

Seven cases, each raising fundamental questions concerning the constitutionality of the amendment, were consolidated by the Court and labeled the National Prohibition Cases.

A host of highly regarded attorneys, including Elihu Root, William D. Guthrie, and Levy Mayer, as well as Herbert A. Rice and Thomas F. McCran, attorneys general for Rhode Island and New Jersey respectively, represented the appellants. The oral arguments lasted for five days, an unusually long time for even the most important cases.
The argument of Elihu Root attracted the most attention. The former Secretary of War, Secretary of State, and senator represented a New Jersey brewer.
Root asserted that the Eighteenth Amendment was simply unconstitutional. Root from the outset opposed the form, spirit, purpose, and effect of the Eighteenth Amendment. He told friends that its denial of personal liberty, its potential for eroding respect for law, and its alteration of the balance between local and national government alarmed him.

Root gave a memorable peroration: 

" --- If your Honors shall find a way to declare this so-called Amendment to the Federal Constitution valid, then the Government of the United States as it has been known to us and to our forefathers will have ceased to exist. Your Honors will have discovered a new legislative authority hitherto unknown to the Constitution and quite untrammelled by any of its limitations. You will have declared that two thirds of a quorum of each House of the Congress, plus a majority of a quorum of each of the two Houses of the Legislatures of three fourths of the States, may enact any legislation they please without any reference to the limitations of the Constitution, including the Bill of Rights itself.
In that case, Your Honors, John Marshall need never have sat upon that bench." 

253 posted on 07/11/2005 1:22:42 PM PDT by musanon
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