Posted on 07/09/2005 1:42:13 PM PDT by Panerai
ore than half a century of U.S. dominance in science and engineering may be slipping as America's share of graduates in these fields falls relative to Europe and developing nations such as China and India, a study released on Friday says.
The study, written by Richard Freeman at the National Bureau of Economic Research in Washington, warned that changes in the global science and engineering job market may require a long period of adjustment for U.S. workers.
Moves by international companies to move jobs in information technology, high-tech manufacturing and research and development to low-income developing countries were just "harbingers" of that longer-term adjustment, Freeman said.
Urgent action was needed to ensure that slippage in science and engineering education and research, a bulwark of the U.S. productivity boom and resurgence during the 1990s, did not undermine America's global economic leadership, he added.
The United States has had a substantial lead in science and technology since World War II. With just 5 percent of the world's population, it employs almost a third of science and engineering researchers, accounts for 40 percent of research and development spending and publishes 35 percent of science and engineering research papers.
Many of the world's top high-tech firms are American, and government spending on defense-related technology ensures the U.S. military's technological dominance on battlefields.
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"Moves by international companies to move jobs in information technology, high-tech manufacturing and research and development to low-income developing countries"
Say like Microsoft, GM, etc. exporting jobs to India. Yep, explains a lot.
In the 80s and 90s one would regularly hear talk about the need for American companies to be good "corporate citizens". Those days and ideals have given way to globalization and the new super terrific "service economy".
Anybody becomoing an engineer in todays world is STUPID unless they are using it as an undergrad before Med School or Law School. If you are going to engineering school go civil. They can't send all the civil jobs offshore!
Americans are simply going to have to get used to "the next big thing" coming from overseas.
When I was in school, civil engineering was not attractive because of its poor job prospective. Now, they are on top?
We are doomed. DOOMED.
Don't be too paranoid. There are expanding markets oversears that companies want part of.
Duh! Let's see, we export our technical jobs where possible; we hire aliens under special visas because employers do not want to pay American wages; 1/3 of MIT etc (perhaps more) students come from outside the US - and where do they go when they graduate? ... and I haven't even gotten into the erosion of our Constitution, the Degenerats not standing for anything and the GOP looking to screw its constituents.
Do you mean we will all be broke?
Interesting you should say that; at UCSD, the Structural Engineering major has doubled it's enrollement in the last two years.
In "Design of Timber Structures", a class I took last quarter, the professor remarked he was used to teaching the class to maybe 30 students (there were 92 enrolled).
Equalize to what? In how many years?
Once those jobs are gone they are not coming back.
More lawyers, that's the ticket.
"Anybody becomoing an engineer in todays world is STUPID unless they are using it as an undergrad before Med School or Law School. If you are going to engineering school go civil. They can't send all the civil jobs offshore!"
Just a few months ago I attended a seminar on outsourcing at one of our California State Universities. The speaker made a point that the United States graduates sixty thousand engineers each year while India graduates three hundred and fifty thousand engineers each year.
Economics students, please shift labor supply curve to the right and note what happens on the vertical axis. (Where the wage is indicated.)
Why would anyone get a degree in th scientific field or engineering? With every increase in H1-B and L-1 visa holders into this country is one less job open for an American kid.
Half right. Chemical engineers still do pretty well. Petroleium engineers took it seriously in the shorts during the collapse of the US oil companies in the late 1990's, and demand still hasn't recovered.
And these companies won't accept foreign degrees from Americans but will import workers with foreign degrees for the same job.
To attend four years of college in India is 4k and it is all in English.
Yeah but the civils can't have a lot of the jobs shipped offshore like most other engineering professions. Civil is the growth field. The rest are dying slowly.
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