Posted on 07/08/2005 11:38:55 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
Sen. John Cornyn, second from left, talks with, from left, Victoria County Sheriff T. Michael O'Connor, rancher Vincent Heard of Refugio and Goliad counties, Goliad County Justice of the Peace Emilio Vargas and Victoria County Justice of the Peace Jack Milam, Thursday at the Victoria County Sheriff's Office after a roundtable discussion on the problem of illegal immigration.
"Cornyn said the solution isn't to deploy the military or to build a wall, and agreed that some immigrants "do jobs Americans are not always willing to do."
He said a balance must be struck between economic and security needs"
And as long as the Senator thinks this, no measurable progress will be made.
As someone who loves squash, I would hate to see it all ruin on the vine...which really is a problem...
BUT, rather than let the illegals in from Mexico, why don't we get the illegals that are in the prisons go do it...kind of a worker program...if they aren't "violent" or in for a rape, murder, sex with child...
let the time working in the fields, go towards his sentence..then when he has worked enough and finished his sentence, if he has been well behaved, give him a chance to work the fields, and take the money back to Mexico.
As long as the Federal Gov't is unwilling to secure the borders, the job falls on the local sheriffs. I don't know about these sheriffs, but if my county were on the border I'd rather have my sheriff than the federal government anyway.
The real John Cornyn,
The following is from his PDF file on his site, I will post a link at the bottom of this page.
I think the courts have said that unless it's government squash then this is illegal forced labor, though I can't cite a case so I might be wrong.
"During the roundtable discussion, Ned Miester of the Texas Farm Bureau appealed to Cornyn to not take any action that would lead to the closing of the border, saying farmers need the workers who come up from Mexico. "
This is the crux of the problem. Employers feel they can't survive without operating illegally. There must be a demand for these products, or the farmers wouldn't be so overwhelmed with work. The question then becomes, what is the price the market will bear for the produce in question. If the price is too low to keep all the farmers in business, then unfortunately some of these farmers are going to have to change crops. I realize it is a balancing action, and without the illegals to keep production costs low enough to allow the farmers to flood the market with produce, some farms will go under.
Which is the worse cost? Allow the illegals in, with the attendant costs to the economy through welfare/unreimbursed medical, lost tax revenue, and crime/potential terrorism? Or, allow some of the industry that relies on this low-initial-cost workforce to die off (let the market regulate itself back to equilibrium), with the attendant increase in price to the consumer of the goods/services provided by these industries, and realize the increased security and eventual reduced cost of government?
Cornyn Ping!
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We can still build a wall to control our borders.
We can force people to be here illegally.
Illegal Immigration affects it all. We have it here in Indiana.
Chucky Schumer and Hillary were on a rant today about more money for buses and subways security. If the terrorists want to blow up a bus no amount of money or secutiry can stop them. I would much rather spend that money stopping people from walking across the border, not only Mexicans but anyoine who walks across at anywhere other than a legal entry port. Illegals is not the point. The point is gettin people in without backpacks full of drugs. Chemical or biological agents or allowing Muslim agents to come in with the illegals.
I am pretty sure it is illegal, but then again so are they!!
Seriesly, I think there is a law like that, but why not change it....President Bush wants a "worker program"...why not start by using the ones that are already here, and put them to work instead of getting 3 hots and a cot on OUR dime, without lifting a finger?
I was being mostly facetious on my last post, but dang, there has to be a better idea than any thing else I heard except building a fence!! But then, the squash would spoil. I am not really being facetious about the squash.
My grandfather was a farmer...and I know what a hard job that is...and when it is harvest time...there isn't any wiggle room. You can't just put a Help Wanted sign on the mailbox or in the newspaper and "hope" you have enough workers...
Those ranchers and farmers along the border have BOTH problems. Too MANY illegals, but maybe not enough workers!
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Cornyn to Minutemen: Back Off (Asks for time to allow the federal government to act.)
It saddens me that Texas votes red, but we do not have conservative Senators. Cornyn and KBH both talk the talk, but neither walks the walk.
Since when do deputies need to be trained to catch illegals. I dare say they know how to identify them. I've been on the border as a police officer and the only training the BP gets is in government paper work, court documents, sensitivity, and firearms. My mother can spot an illegal immigrant.
ROFLOL! I'm with you, my state was initially populated largely by indentured servants ...
I call them country club republicans. They're not really RINOs, but they're not fighting the good fight, either. We've got them, too, and most of them get reelected because of name recognition - they've been in elected office since the 1970s.
This is an opportunity for all of you out of work Antis to make some quick bucks to get you by until you can find an engineering or programming job.
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Gee, how did the farmers in the past survive? Long hours, long days. Mmmm.....
That is crap, no one to pick, he isn't looking hard enough.
Until you shoot at them a couple of times. Being under fire changes your mind set about going from point A to point B.
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