Posted on 07/08/2005 5:40:48 AM PDT by OESY
Well said, veronica!
The various nations will make the perfunctory diplomatic "noises", then after an appropriate period of mourning, the internicine verbal sniping will begin once again..
This changes no one's minds in europe or elsewhere..
It will take something much more dramatic..
Well put!
Sure, and Hell will freeze. Fortunately, both Jacqes and the Kraut will not be around much longer.
Why did Bush allow the WTC to be bombed? Was Clinton part of this nasty Bush conspiracy? </sarcasm
We will neve win the war on terrorism as long as we let them dictate the rules of engagement. We have to get serious.
Like you said we have to establish as a fact that we have an absolute Zero tolerance for terrorism .
We have to hold the countries and their governments responsible for the acts that the people inside their borders commit.
We cannot let them get away with harboring, financing, giving propaganda support, and claiming that they can't control the people inside their own borders. No more wink wink nod nod at these organizations inside their borders.
If the U.S. is serious about stopping this crap they will take this opportunity to.. Issue an ultimatum to Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia.
They would go downtown Damascus at the next meeting of these terrorists organizations with cruise missiles and eliminate them. They would also visit those bases likewise around and across their border with Iraq.
They would also hit the nuclear facility in Iran to get their new leader's attention.
They would call the Saudis on the carpet and tell them they will immediately stop spreading this deadly cult around the world and financing terrorism or the next sound they hear will be the collapse of their kingdom and it's conversion to a democracy.
They then need to send a message to the world of Islam saying that if you keep preaching hate death and destruction in your schools, mosques and through your media then that is what you will get.
Tell them since they cause the destruction of other people's religious sights through their doctrine of preaching and teaching hate that their sites will be targeted for destruction starting with Medina if this practice does not stop immediately.
As for the Palestinian and Israeli situation.
We first move our embassy to Jerusalem, now.
Tell the Palestinians their is a new land for peace deal.
First we cut off all aid until all violence is stooped and the terrorists disarmed and eliminated.
That since they have been given land for peace without any peace coming forth that if there are any other acts of violence or demonstrations encouraging, promoting,or condoning such acts that the area in which they occur will be taken back and become a permanent part of Israel.
That there will be no state until it is proven that they can develop the land they have into a viable community capable of producing jobs and goods for their people instead of hate, violence death, and destruction.
If our leaders do these things most of which does not involve much more than a strong willed determination, ignoring special interst groups {including big business}, and the push of a button we stand a chance of convincing the people that terrorism as a political tool is useless.
Will they do this. I doubt it.
It requires common sense, a disregard for PC and something besides tough talk.
Politicians make their living talking and take their actions based on polls not common sense.
Getting re-elected comes first.
The safety and well being of their citizens and country is further down the list.
"We will neve win the war on terrorism as long as we let them dictate the rules of engagement. We have to get serious."
Let them dictate the rules of engagement.
And just how are we doing this?
What makes you think we're not being serious?
"If the U.S. is serious about stopping this crap they will take this opportunity to.. Issue an ultimatum to Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia."
Do you have any idea what's going on over there? No flame intended, but your statement leds me to believe that you don't, and that you are looking for a quick fix to a problem that has been going for a very long time.
No.
Will we take the measures necessary "this time?"
Will yesterday's savagery reunite the West against its common enemy?
Not with the likes of Kennedy,Biden,Kerry,Durbin,Clinton,et al and their disparaging remarks. They are too concerned about the political ramifications of this event. If we,the United State present a united front against terrorism,the world will follow.
By letting these countries such as Saudi, Syria, Iran make war and kill around the world by proxy.
They give these shock troops of their making safe harbor, finacial support, propaganda outlets , training bases, meeting places and command and communication centers and claim that they cannot do anything about it.
There are dozens of these terrorist groups in Syria alone. Anytime there's an attack everybody focuses on one little group in that country and forgets that it's Syria who's responsible.
They want you to focus on one little group they can afford to lose and forget the big problem which is the host country is the one who's supporting them all.
It a new type of warfare where they got you sending your army after bits and pieces or fighting shadows.
They'll either outlast you by continuing to come up with a new group of a dozen or so while you are trying to supply logistics for an army. Or they'll bankrupt you by having you spend hundreds of thousands of dollars a day while they spend a few hundred at the most.
They pick the time and place when they want to strike and then they run to safety back into their rat hole host country to plan, rest and reload.
The way you beat this tactic is you tell Syria leader we're holding you and your country responsible for these shadows. It's you we're coming after you if you don't stop it.
Do you think Syria can't stop those terrorists operating in their country if they wanted to? If you do then you don't know t their secrete police force and it's you who don't know what's going on.
You don't let the enemy dictate who you go after, you don't let them pick the time and place to fight, you don't let some leader use their country's borders and their money to support and shield the enemy from your forces and let them say it's not my fault I can't control these people.
Bush knows this. That why he said at the first you are either with us or with the terrorists.
Now he just needs to apply it to Syria, Iran and the PLO with a few conventional missiles in the right place to really put them on notice that terrorism is a losing proposition.
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