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1 posted on 07/07/2005 7:52:43 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty

Greta????


2 posted on 07/07/2005 7:56:44 PM PDT by wizardoz (No way...??)
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So basically a bunch of BS then, got it.


4 posted on 07/07/2005 7:58:42 PM PDT by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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Scientology: What it really is and isn't

What it is? We can stop right there.

IT'S A CULT.

RUN!

6 posted on 07/07/2005 8:04:48 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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Q: What did he say was his big discovery?

Some people will believe anything

Q: Why are so many celebrities Scientologists?

Some people will believe anything
8 posted on 07/07/2005 8:07:12 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to help)
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A puff-propaganda piece. It's a CULT.
9 posted on 07/07/2005 8:07:55 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (fiat voluntas Tua)
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These people have extraordinary faith to accept all this based on absolutely zero evidence. I can just hear them talk about Christianity "there's no evidence that Jesus rose from the dead ... etc " Or maybe their beliefs are not based on faith at all. Maybe its just they feel better doing it and that's enough for them. In that case, it would be more akin to therapy than a religion.


10 posted on 07/07/2005 8:07:58 PM PDT by plain talk
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Scientology's position regarding most of psychiatry is comparable to official Catholic teachings about abortion.

AS IF.

12 posted on 07/07/2005 8:09:17 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (fiat voluntas Tua)
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Moonies, however, are a perfectly normal bunch. I read that in the Washington Times.
13 posted on 07/07/2005 8:13:06 PM PDT by jayhorn (when i hit the drum, you shake the booty.)
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One of the funniest things I ever read was of Hubberd's response to a question about his making money from his SF books - for which he was not being paid highly at that time in his career - and Hubberd said "if you want to make some real money, you need to start your own religion' or words to that effect.

I guess the scientologists never heard about that comment. Personally I think that L. Ron got the idea when he made that comment and ran with it - and all the idiots with more money than brains are buying into it.

What a joke!


14 posted on 07/07/2005 8:17:18 PM PDT by SusaninOhio
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Scientology is simply a fiction, created so that Jehovah's Witnesses would have somebody to look down upon.


15 posted on 07/07/2005 8:18:26 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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Reposted from a previous post of mine:

Some fun quotations of famed (infamous) Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard:

“’Psychiatry’ and ‘psychiatrist’ are easily redefined to mean ‘an anti-social enemy of the people‘. This takes the kill crazy psychiatrist off the preferred list of professions...The redefinition of words is done by associating different emotions and symbols with the word than were intended...Scientologists are redefining ‘doctor‘, ‘Psychiatry’ and ‘psychology’ to mean ‘undesirable antisocial elements‘...The way to redefine a word is to get the new definition repeated as often as possible. Thus it is necessary to redefine medicine, psychiatry and psychology downward and define Dianetics and Scientology upwards. This, so far as words are concerned, is the public opinion battle for belief in your definitions, and not those of the opposition. A consistent, repeated effort is the key to any success with this technique of propaganda.” - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 5 October 1971, PR Series 12, “Propaganda by Redefinition of Words”

“The names and connections, at this time, of the bitterly opposing enemy are: 1. Psychiatry and psychology (not medicine). 2. The heads of news media who are also directors of psychiatric front groups. 3. A few key political figures in the fields of “mental health” and education. 4. A decline of monetary stability caused by the current planning of bankers who are also directors of psychiatric front organizations [that] would make us unable to function.” - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 16 February 1969, “TARGETS, DEFENSE”

“Leukaemia is evidently psychosomatic in origin and at least eight cases of leukaemia had been treated successfully by Dianetics after medicine had traditionally given up. The source of leukaemia has been reported to be an engram containing the phrase ‘It turns my blood to water.’” - L. Ron Hubbard, “Journal of Scientology,” Issue 15-G, 1953

“THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them.” - L. Ron Hubbard, “Off the Time Track,” lecture of June 1952, excerpted in JOURNAL OF SCIENTOLOGY issue 18-G, reprinted in TECHNICAL VOLUMES OF DIANETICS & SCIENTOLOGY, vol. 1, p. 418

"People who attack Scientology are criminals." - L. Ron Hubbard ED 149 INT, 2 Dec 1966, "Branch 5 Project, Project Squirrel"

“If attacked on some vulnerable point by anyone or anything or any organization, always find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace.” - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 15 August 1960, Dept. of Govt. Affairs

“This is the correct procedure: Spot who is attacking us. Start investigating them promptly for felonies or worse using our own professionals, not outside agencies. Double curve our reply by saying we welcome an investigation of them. Start feeding lurid, blood sex crime actual evidence on the attackers to the press. Don’t ever tamely submit to an investigation of us. Make it rough, rough on attackers all the way.” - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 25 February 1966

“The purpose of the suit is to harass and discourage rather than to win. The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, well knowing that he is not authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause his professional decease. If possible, of course, ruin him utterly.” - L. Ron Hubbard, A MANUAL ON THE DISSEMINATION OF MATERIAL, 1955

“When you move off a point of power, pay all your obligations on the nail, empower all your friends completely and move off with your pockets full of artillery, potential blackmail on every erstwhile rival, unlimited funds in your private account and the addresses of experienced assassins and go live in Bulgravia [sic] and bribe the police.” - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 12 February 1967, “The Responsibilities of Leaders”

“ENEMY SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed.” - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 18 October 1967 [SP = Suppressive Person a.k.a. critic of Scientology]

“The practice of declaring people FAIR GAME will cease. FAIR GAME may not appear on any Ethics Order. It causes bad public relations. This P/L does not cancel any policy on the treatment or handling of an SP.” - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 21 October 1968, “Cancellation of Fair Game”

“A truly Suppressive Person or group has no rights of any kind and actions taken against them are not punishable.” - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 1 March 1965, HCO (Division 1) “Ethics, Suppressive Acts, Suppression of Scientology and Scientologists”

“Unfortunately, it is all too often true that suppressors to a creative action must be removed before construction and creation takes place. Any person very high on the Tone Scale may level destruction toward a suppressor.” - L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, p. 159

“In any event, any person from 2.0 down on the Tone Scale should not have, in any thinking society, any civil rights of any kind, because by abusing those rights he brings into being arduous and strenuous laws which are oppressive to those who need no such restraints.” - L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, 1989 Ed., p. 145 [The “Tone Scale” is Scientology’s measure of mental and spiritual health.]

“There are only two answers for the handling of people from 2.0 down on the Tone Scale, neither one of which has anything to do with reasoning with them or listening to their justification of their acts. The first is to raise them on the Tone Scale by un-enturbulating some of their theta by any one of the three valid processes. The other is to dispose of them quietly and without sorrow.” - L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, p. 170

“The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the Tone Scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered.” - L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, p. 170

“I’d like to start a religion. That’s where the money is.” - L. Ron Hubbard to Lloyd Eshbach, in 1949; quoted by Eshbach in OVER MY SHOULDER: REFLECTIONS ON A SCIENCE FICTION ERA, Donald M. Grant Publisher. 1983

“MAKE MONEY. MAKE MORE MONEY. MAKE OTHER PEOPLE PRODUCE SO AS TO MAKE MORE MONEY.” - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 9 March 1972, MS OEC 384

And a quote from a sane person:

"Scientology is quite likely the most ruthless, the most classically terroristic, the most litigious and the most lucrative cult the country has ever seen. No cult extracts more money from its members." - Cynthia Kisser, former Executive Director, Cult Awareness Network.

I always wondered why there weren't more Scientologists among the DUmmie hordes. It seems like a perfect match for them.

17 posted on 07/07/2005 8:22:12 PM PDT by Chappaquiddick Crawdad ("E unum pluribus"? Perhaps you meant "ex uno plures", or is that "stultus sum"? hmmm...)
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The core of Scientology beliefs:
Once upon a time (75 million years ago to be more precise) there was an alien galactic ruler named Xenu. Xenu was in charge of all the planets in this part of the galaxy including our own planet Earth, except in those days it was called Teegeeack.

Now Xenu had a problem. All of the 76 planets he controlled were overpopulated. Each planet had on average 178 billion people. He wanted to get rid of all the overpopulation so he had a plan.

Xenu took over complete control with the help of renegades to defeat the good people and the Loyal Officers. Then with the help of psychiatrists he called in billions of people for income tax inspections where they were instead given injections of alcohol and glycol mixed to paralyse them. Then they were put into space planes that looked exactly like DC8s (except they had rocket motors instead of propellers).

These DC8 space planes then flew to planet Earth where the paralysed people were stacked around the bases of volcanoes in their hundreds of billions. When they had finished stacking them around then H-bombs were lowered into the volcanoes. Xenu then detonated all the H-bombs at the same time and everyone was killed.

The story doesn't end there though. Since everyone has a soul (called a "thetan" in this story) then you have to trick souls into not coming back again. So while the hundreds of billions of souls were being blown around by the nuclear winds he had special electronic traps that caught all the souls in electronic beams (the electronic beams were sticky like fly-paper).

After he had captured all these souls he had them packed into boxes and taken to a few huge cinemas. There all the souls had to spend days watching special 3D motion pictures that told them what life should be like and many confusing things. In this film they were shown false pictures and told they were God, The Devil and Christ. In the story this process is called "implanting".

When the films ended and the souls left the cinema these souls started to stick together because since they had all seen the same film they thought they were the same people. They clustered in groups of a few thousand. Now because there were only a few living bodies left they stayed as clusters and inhabited these bodies.

As for Xenu, the Loyal Officers finally overthrew him and they locked him away in a mountain on one of the planets. He is kept in by a force-field powered by an eternal battery and Xenu is still alive today.


18 posted on 07/07/2005 8:23:50 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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Anything that a bunch of Hollywood types are into has to be bad....


20 posted on 07/07/2005 8:27:17 PM PDT by Awestruck (Here we go again!!)
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23 posted on 07/07/2005 8:28:01 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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He was a friend of John Campbell, the editor of Astounding Science Fiction, one of the best-known magazines of the pulp era. Campbell, who became an enthusiastic advocate for Dianetics, published some of Hubbard's work in Astounding.

Campbell's editorials in each issue of Astounding were some of the best writing I've ever read. My dad subscribed to ASF and I went back and read every issue from 1948 until way past Campbell's death. At first, Campbell was very supportive of this new idea that possibly could unlock the secrets of the human mind. As time went on, he became more skeptical and finally after a couple of years came to the conclusion that Hubbard was a fine science fiction writer, but that Scientology was bunk.

26 posted on 07/07/2005 8:32:36 PM PDT by DmBarch
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for later


28 posted on 07/07/2005 8:33:25 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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Somebody told me once that Scientology was the result of a bet in a bar.

L.Ron Hubbard and a drinking friend were arguing about religion, and Hubbard bet his friend that he could dream up his own religion and get people to buy it.

Scientology was what resulted.


29 posted on 07/07/2005 8:34:38 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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Hey, if a felon who became a professor at Long Beach State can create a phony African holiday to compete with Christmas, I guess someone had the right to create this crap. Major league crap. (I hope they don't come and beat me up.)


31 posted on 07/07/2005 8:36:03 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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Somebody told me once that Scientology was the result of a bet in a bar.

L.Ron Hubbard and a drinking friend were arguing about religion, and Hubbard bet his friend that he could dream up his own religion and get people to buy it.

Scientology was what resulted.


34 posted on 07/07/2005 8:38:11 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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37 posted on 07/07/2005 8:39:48 PM PDT by CO Gal (Liberals should be seen, but not heard..)
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