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Pope Deplores 'Barbaric Acts' In London
WCBS 88 ^ | 7/7/05

Posted on 07/07/2005 12:31:33 PM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: areafiftyone; icwhatudo; exile; utahagen; dangus; TXBubba; Tax-chick; MadIvan; onyx; Kristian; ...
From FR thread Do Muslims worship idols?

...Although Benedict XVI has expressed sympathy for Islam, he states quite plainly that the "martyr ideology" of Islamist terrorists amounts to an odious form of idol worship. Most Muslims, and emphatically the Muslim clergy, support this "martyr ideology".

The pope made these comments at the anniversary celebrations of the Allies' Normandy landing, at Caen Cathedral on December 6, 2004, and included them in a German-language volume released last March, just as he was elected to the papacy. The title translates as "Values in Times of Upheaveal". Had these remarks appeared in English, they no doubt would have stirred up controversy, but it is surprising that they were ignored in the world press.

Benedict argues that peace flows from the informed conscience, which in turn causes men to band together to share responsibility for justice. With the prostration of European Christianity, conscience turns into an instrument of secular ideology, whose cynicism and self-interest leads men to turn on their neighbors. Quite the opposite of a pacifist pladoyer (final speech) , Benedict's book warns that the West must strengthen its own values in order to achieve peace: The graves of World War II present us with a mandate. It is to strengthen the forces of the good, to support, work, live and suffer for those values and truths which God has established to hold the world together. God promised Abraham that he would not destroy the city of Sodom if 10 just men were to be found there. We should make every effort to make sure that the 10 just men are not lacking who might save a city. As a practical matter, Benedict XVI stands closer to Robertson than to Bush. He did not say that Muslims worshipped idols, but he denounced the "martyr ideology of terrorists", which "turns God into an idol by which man worships his own will". Given that the great majority of Muslims, and particularly Muslim clerics, support suicide bombing, the pope in effect averred that idol-worshippers comprise the Islamic mainstream....

...The present pope sees the world with brutal clarity and makes no excuses for an Islamist ideology that recalls the ideology of the Germany of his youth.

21 posted on 07/07/2005 1:19:47 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: areafiftyone

LOL!


22 posted on 07/07/2005 1:20:41 PM PDT by biblewonk (If you don't get the bible, how can you be a Christian?)
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To: exile
I'm Agnostic

You wouldn't happen to be also dyslexic and an insomniac, would you?

23 posted on 07/07/2005 1:21:14 PM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: areafiftyone
That's the way to speak!!!

Go Pope!!!!

PS: I'm an atheist and if an atheist and a Pope think the same things, there must be something true. (as Oriana Fallaci says)
24 posted on 07/07/2005 1:23:22 PM PDT by an italian (God bless all the b in the world... Bush, Berlusconi and Blair...)
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To: Kristian
The BBC and other lefty media....translated his word.... CHRISTIANITY as HUMANITY

You're kidding.

25 posted on 07/07/2005 1:23:43 PM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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And you, biblehack, are flapping your ignorant gums via the keyboard on yet another Catholic related thread, because ...


26 posted on 07/07/2005 1:24:18 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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Don't show that picture to a priest. They might get excited.


27 posted on 07/07/2005 1:35:20 PM PDT by biblewonk (If you don't get the bible, how can you be a Christian?)
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To: areafiftyone

Remember, Italy has been directly threatened by Islamists. I wonder if the Vatican is a target of theirs?


28 posted on 07/07/2005 1:39:58 PM PDT by Truthsayer20
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To: Pyro7480

POPE BENEDICT FOR THE SUPREME COURT!

(O wait; I'm mixing up my threads again, aren't I.)
(You can tell when Benedict has been appointed to the Supreme Court... There'll be white smoke rising from Nancy Pelosi's ears.


30 posted on 07/07/2005 1:53:01 PM PDT by dangus
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To: areafiftyone
Well now....maybe the pope can excommunicate all these suckers!

Of course, they don't believe he has any power anyway...but the effect would be nice.

31 posted on 07/07/2005 1:54:37 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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Don't show that picture to a priest. They might get excited

LOL!!!!!!

32 posted on 07/09/2005 10:23:41 AM PDT by Saigon68
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YOU WONDER??? These terrorists are ISLAMIC FANATICS, and the Pope is THE symbol for our Christian faith. He probably ranks 2nd right after President Bush in the list of most popular targets.


33 posted on 07/09/2005 10:32:50 AM PDT by Michael81Dus (Deutschland kommt wieder!)
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