To: unlearner
misuse of analogy:
algebraic axioms are "observable"; their function can be demonstrated hence they are accepted. you can attempt to find examples disproving the axiom.
god cannot be observed directly nor quantified. it can neither be proved nor disproved by the scientific manner. (spinoza proved logically that god does not exist but that was just word games)
i have no problem with intelligent design but it is religion not science. evolution does not contradict intelligent design, the existence of god or a designer cannot be proven/disproven so it is outside the "discussion". intelligent design provides a philosophical framework for combining religion and science within one's personal philosophy of life.
To: thejokker
"intelligent design... is religion not science"
Evolutionary origination of species is (bad & inaccurate) history, not science. Evolutionary adaptation is science.
The claim that man and apes shared the same ancestors is no more scientific than the claim that Jesus rose from the dead. Both are historical claims that can be scientifically investigated to some extent. Historical proof is not the same as scientific proof (even though both are valid foundations for knowledge), yet evolutionists cannot tell the difference.
"[God] can neither be proved nor disproved by the scientific manner."
"misuse of analogy: ... you can attempt to find examples disproving the axiom"
axiom - n 1: a saying that widely accepted on its own merits [syn: maxim] 2: (logic) a proposition that is not susceptible of proof or disproof; its truth is assumed to be self-evident
"algebraic axioms are observable"
Really? Can you give one example?
The more I use the algebraic axiom analogy and find no one has a rebuttal that even comes close to working, the more I realize the analogy is flawless.
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