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To: QQQQQ

You are right. This keeps making the rounds here and is, to say the least, highly dubious. Where in the heck did these "goals" come from? An official Communist party document? If so, Where can a copy be obtained?


35 posted on 07/06/2005 12:44:45 PM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright

I think those goal DID come from an original communist document. I used to know what it was, but mostly the list survived, but unfortunately, without the original source. I should go and dig, and see if I come up with the original source, if I do, I'll post it and keep it handy for future reference.


37 posted on 07/06/2005 12:49:19 PM PDT by QQQQQ
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To: Austin Willard Wright

Here is what I could determine by a quick research.

The goals are listed in a book: "THe Naked Communist" by W. Cleon Skousen, who was a senior FBI agent under J. Edgar Hoover, the police chief of Salt Lake City, Utah, and a full professor at Brigham Young University.

Florida Congressman A.S. Herlong Jr. entered this list into the Congressional Records in 1963.


http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

http://www.spongobongo.com/em/em9817.htm


I don't know where Skousen got his list, he may mention it in his book. Considering, that he was an FBI agent, maybe they got hold of some commie documents.

But I have read elsewhere, that the communists were working hard on destroying the capitalist countries, starting with the US, "from within". It was a major strategy for them, so it's quite possible they outlined those items.

It is also interesting that those goals first saw the light of day in 1958, before a lot of them have been accomplished, that now are totally accepted, so it's not as if someone looked around today and created the goals retroactively, to fit today's status.


39 posted on 07/06/2005 12:58:16 PM PDT by QQQQQ
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To: Austin Willard Wright; QQQQQ; Calpernia
If so, Where can a copy be obtained?

I haven't verified the particular report cited here, but the source cited in the post is the Congressional Record (most likely quoting an FBI report to HUAC, I'd infer), which can be accessed online for certain dates, though unfortunately this record is old enough you'd have to physically check a Federal Depository Library to obtain a copy:

Thomas Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

3. For what time periods does THOMAS have legislative information? THOMAS has the Congressional Record and full text of legislation available from 1989 (101st Congress) to the present. In addition, THOMAS has summaries (not full text) of legislation are available back to 1973 (93rd Congress). A Century of Lawmaking for a New Nation: U.S. Congressional Documents and Debates 1774-1875 provides a century's worth of congressional proceedings, statutes, and other information. Legislative texts and documents prior to 1989 may be found in print form at Federal Depository Libraries. You can locate a library at this site by either state or area code. Legislation is eventually codified in the U.S. Code, which may be found in several locations other than the one given here.

One other place that type of information can be obtained is from the annual reports archived here:

Records of the United States House of Representatives

233.25 RECORDS OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEE ON INTERNAL SECURITY AND ITS PREDECESSORS 1938-75 2,301 lin. ft.

233.25.1 Records of the Special Committee on Un-American Activities (1938-45)

233.25.2 Records of the House Committee on Un-American Activities (1945-69) and the House Committee on Internal Security (1969-75)

Annual reports on Communist activity were also filed with the state equivalents of HUAC and SISS--for example, a few are online here:

Online Archive of California: Texts > Free Speech Movement Archives > Government Documents

The Lusk Report's second volume appendix is also a good resource for primary source documents summarizing Communist Party goals:

The Lusk Committee: A Guide to the Records of the Joint Legislative Committee to Investigate Seditious Activities

42 posted on 07/06/2005 1:06:47 PM PDT by Fedora
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